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Old 03-13-2015 | 06:58 AM
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Makes that easy, back to drinking beer! Thanks
Old 03-13-2015 | 02:43 PM
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Turn lines in Vegas with no Red Eyes and 19 & 20 days off? I wonder if this is an April Fools joke and the real schedules aren't out yet? :-/
Old 03-13-2015 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by willflyforcash
A few pages back, Everyone was talking about scheduling hiding pairings and if that was contractually permitted.
C4039 for 14 March is currently hidden. Is that legal?
Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
Yes and about 5 pairings for 3/14 in DFW just magically disappeared late on 3/12.... No reserves were assigned the pairings. I guess they were picked up by non reserves... Doubtful, but who knows.
THANK YOU for noticing!
Please contact your scheduling committee, about this and any other CS contract violations.
Collect evidence and file a NCC.

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Apparently we don't fly planes on April 1st according to the FLL bid packet. Somehow I think those pairings will magically appear after the lines are awarded. Anyone that still thinks we should forego pay rates in favor of this transition language is an idiot.
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Relief lines have been increasing. Is there a maximum?

I would add to that list:
Limiting the number of relief lines, to a max % of total lines/pairings.
Formula for determining min reserves required. (green/red buffer)
Transparent reserve call out list.
Old 03-13-2015 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
Turn lines in Vegas with no Red Eyes and 19 & 20 days off? I wonder if this is an April Fools joke and the real schedules aren't out yet? :-/

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Old 03-14-2015 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jett i son
THANK YOU for noticing!
Please contact your scheduling committee, about this and any other CS contract violations.
Collect evidence and file a NCC.
BTW, if anyone has been working the BOS-MYR-FLL segment with a 4:30ish am show, that's an illegal pairing. It's a red eye +1, and there are many of them out there.
Old 03-14-2015 | 08:22 AM
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Scheduling committee missed it?
Old 03-14-2015 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
BTW, if anyone has been working the BOS-MYR-FLL segment with a 4:30ish am show, that's an illegal pairing. It's a red eye +1, and there are many of them out there.
IIRC at least part of your duty period has to be between 1 - 4 am to qualify as a red eye.
Old 03-14-2015 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
BTW, if anyone has been working the BOS-MYR-FLL segment with a 4:30ish am show, that's an illegal pairing. It's a red eye +1, and there are many of them out there.
Yes, I just saw the contractual language on that. "Redeye-plus-one pairings have any duty period portion within the hours of 0200 and 0459 local domicile time and after the first flight leg a subsequent flight leg scheduled to depart after 0300 local domicile time."

I can only assume the "spirit" of this language is to prevent a jungle turn redeye from getting you back after the sun comes up. I.E. a GUA turn that departs at 0100, and the second leg departs at 0400 and puts you back at the gate at 0700.

It appears we may be up against just a really early report, with 2 legs. As far as the union/company go. We've been flying this pairing for years. So I'm sure someone has brought it up.

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Old 03-14-2015 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sandlapper223
I don't like that pairing anymore than most, not defending it. But how is a 0430 show / 0515 go a red eye again?
In the contract it states any duty period that touches the hours of 0200-0459 local duty time, and then has a subsequent flight after 0300 LDT qualifies as a red eye +1. That has been verified by the scheduling committee.
Old 03-14-2015 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
In the contract it states any duty period that touches the hours of 0200-0459 local duty time, and then has a subsequent flight after 0300 LDT qualifies as a red eye +1. That has been verified by the scheduling committee.
Yeah, sorry I've edited my post after I read the language. So what say the scheduling committee dudes? Like I said, we've been flying that particular pairing for years.
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