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09-07-2015 | 05:30 AM
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Thanks Captain Lonestar. Thanks for being a wonderful champion of labor relief on a contract that was signed 5 years prior and weathered the storm of multiple meltdowns prior to this "dire need." We were all affected from senior line holders to the bottom reserve. The grievance process was inundated from it.
But please let me guess - you're part of the SPA ALPA internal spin machine that's now finally beginning to grab your bullhorn and busload of sheep to pump the masses full of Ackerman's snake oil on why this contract will be the best thing for us, regardless of the truth. Don't worry, the rest of us will see through how ever many propaganda handles you utilize.
But please let me guess - you're part of the SPA ALPA internal spin machine that's now finally beginning to grab your bullhorn and busload of sheep to pump the masses full of Ackerman's snake oil on why this contract will be the best thing for us, regardless of the truth. Don't worry, the rest of us will see through how ever many propaganda handles you utilize.
09-07-2015 | 07:52 AM
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09-07-2015 | 08:19 AM
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Yall can say all you want, but I didn't provide any relief or do the company any favors. I have never picked up a JM, and im usually dropping trips below my guarantee.
I'm not a company man or a union stooge RalphWiggum. Nice assumption. I bet you make a lot of those
09-07-2015 | 08:21 AM
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You were only affected if you allowed it. You could have told them no. I imagine the 400 grievances were from things associated with the meltdown like hotel and transportation issues. I'm not sure if this is a fact, but I heard that only a handful of pilots actually gave contractual relief.
Yall can say all you want, but I didn't provide any relief or do the company any favors. I have never picked up a JM, and im usually dropping trips below my guarantee.
I'm not a company man or a union stooge RalphWiggum. Nice assumption. I bet you make a lot of those
Yall can say all you want, but I didn't provide any relief or do the company any favors. I have never picked up a JM, and im usually dropping trips below my guarantee.
I'm not a company man or a union stooge RalphWiggum. Nice assumption. I bet you make a lot of those
I think you're making assumptions because I didn't say or imply most of that in my post. You read it in there.
09-07-2015 | 08:40 AM
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09-07-2015 | 10:54 AM
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09-07-2015 | 01:40 PM
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Thanks Captain Lonestar. Thanks for being a wonderful champion of labor relief on a contract that was signed 5 years prior and weathered the storm of multiple meltdowns prior to this "dire need." We were all affected from senior line holders to the bottom reserve. The grievance process was inundated from it.
But please let me guess - you're part of the SPA ALPA internal spin machine that's now finally beginning to grab your bullhorn and busload of sheep to pump the masses full of Ackerman's snake oil on why this contract will be the best thing for us, regardless of the truth. Don't worry, the rest of us will see through how ever many propaganda handles you utilize.
But please let me guess - you're part of the SPA ALPA internal spin machine that's now finally beginning to grab your bullhorn and busload of sheep to pump the masses full of Ackerman's snake oil on why this contract will be the best thing for us, regardless of the truth. Don't worry, the rest of us will see through how ever many propaganda handles you utilize.
Amogero, Creed, Ackerman. All the same my friend. They don't matter. ACY is the power force for negotiations. MEC's come and go, Maytas stays no matter what!
09-07-2015 | 02:48 PM
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Really? Didn't affect me at all, and I flew through the meltdown. Never once left the confines of the CBA. If it did affect you, there's a grievance process that would make you whole. I'm not saying I agree with the union's decision or rationale for CBA relief, but let's not overdramatize it.
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09-07-2015 | 06:19 PM
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Really? Didn't affect me at all, and I flew through the meltdown. Never once left the confines of the CBA. If it did affect you, there's a grievance process that would make you whole. I'm not saying I agree with the union's decision or rationale for CBA relief, but let's not overdramatize it.
09-07-2015 | 07:46 PM
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The fact that the precedent was set to release portions of the CBA by crying wolf HAS and WILL affect each and every one of us. Good on you that you can't see the direct affect in your micro prospective from the June meltdown, but the effects of a naive MEC's decision to relieve portions of the contract without getting the compensation in writing first, instead accepting a vague "we'll take care of you" from the company, has set us all back. Remember that the expectation of compensation for the contract relief is not an internet created outcome, but it came right from Ackerman's mouth! One which he spoke of multiple times in the aftermath...funny how quiet he is on the subject now.
Our leadership will get a chance to be judged dependent on the quality of the TA they bring us. If it is a poor TA, we should react and remove and replace. But until then, what good does the constant undermining do for us as a pilot group?
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