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Old 04-07-2009 | 12:05 AM
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There is only one U.S. airline that cares if you have a type rating in any one particular type of aircraft...the rest will train the right candidate. A type-rating with no time in type or job lined up is practically worthless. That being said...I'd still take any free type you can get your hands on...just don't eff up the ride or you could do more harm than good.
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Any of the recalls from November; was there an Oral before the sim? Are you still on probation? Did you get 2nd year pay? Were you correctly paid during training in accordance with our CBA? Thanks
Old 04-08-2009 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Co2Fur1EXwife
Any of the recalls from November; was there an Oral before the sim? Are you still on probation? Did you get 2nd year pay? Were you correctly paid during training in accordance with our CBA? Thanks
Yes.

Oral was the walkaround slide show from the CBT with some basic questions. Probation clock stopped the day we were furloughed, so you need to serve out the rest of your time. We were given longevity while on furlough, so if you dont then raise hell. I was recalled for Dec 3rd and was given a full months guarantee for Dec, but im not sure what the guys in the classes behind me got.
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Great, thanks for the info.
Old 04-08-2009 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by captscott26
Yes.

We were given longevity while on furlough.
Are you sure about that? Are you saying you went back 2nd year pay?
Old 04-09-2009 | 04:31 AM
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Are you sure about that? Are you saying you went back 2nd year pay?
Yes. We all did.

Historically Spirit has always given longevity to pilots on furlough. The company decided that past precedence made it necessary to do so this time around as well. Im not sure though if there is a limit to the amount of longevity they will grant you......if someone is out for a few years I dont know if they would come back at year 3 or 4 or whatever.
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Originally Posted by captscott26
Yes. We all did.

Historically Spirit has always given longevity to pilots on furlough. The company decided that past precedence made it necessary to do so this time around as well. Im not sure though if there is a limit to the amount of longevity they will grant you......if someone is out for a few years I dont know if they would come back at year 3 or 4 or whatever.
Interesting because a friend of mine who went back in Dec told me otherwise. I am not trying to imply anything here, just stating what I was told.
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I doubt they would have done it for some and not for others, and everyone that I talked to from the Dec recalls said they did get 2nd year pay. Im not sure who your friend is but if he didnt get it then he should have, and the company owes him a lot of money.

As with many other aspects of our contract, this issue is open to interpretation. There is absolutely no mention of longevity in the furlough section, and there are some instances where a pilot may be on unpaid status and still accrue longevity for a period of time. Since it is not mentioned, past practice is very important here. The pilots furloughed in 2001 and 2003 received longevity while on furlough, so it would be difficult for the company to deny it this time around.

If you want to be on the safe side, plan to be right back where you left off. Then when you get your first check, you may be pleasantly surprised.
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Originally Posted by captscott26
I doubt they would have done it for some and not for others, and everyone that I talked to from the Dec recalls said they did get 2nd year pay. Im not sure who your friend is but if he didnt get it then he should have, and the company owes him a lot of money.

As with many other aspects of our contract, this issue is open to interpretation. There is absolutely no mention of longevity in the furlough section, and there are some instances where a pilot may be on unpaid status and still accrue longevity for a period of time. Since it is not mentioned, past practice is very important here. The pilots furloughed in 2001 and 2003 received longevity while on furlough, so it would be difficult for the company to deny it this time around.

If you want to be on the safe side, plan to be right back where you left off. Then when you get your first check, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Man! I am diggin' what you are saying!

I am curious to see how it will go for this next 12 that I have just missed. Those have been out for 8 months. I just hope you are right and they will continue the practice. It would make a huge difference especially considering you can't pick up OT, min pay on reserve, commuting to ACY (crashpad, cab ride, "I am bored in the pad" beer... etc.). Who knows we may be on 3rd year before all this is over and everyone is back. So yeah $40 vs $52 makes a big difference. 30% to be exact.
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Originally Posted by Normann
Interesting because a friend of mine who went back in Dec told me otherwise. I am not trying to imply anything here, just stating what I was told.
When was your friend hired?
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