A strike vote IS NOT A STRIKE!!!!

We need to show some unity here with this vote. Everyone needs to educate themselves on what a strike vote actually is. If I hear one more guy say the economy is too bad to have a strike vote im gonna snap!!!!! The economy has NOTHING to do with a strike "vote"!

 

Here is an exciting tidbit from the RLA:

If no agreement is reached by the end of the 30-day cooling off period, the parties are free to exercise "self-help." This means that the carrier is free to impose its last offer, temporarily cease operations or engage in other self-help activity (e.g., hiring permanent replacements). The union is free to strike or engage in other self-help activity.

Now call me crazy, but I don’t think that they will have trouble hiring permanent replacements. Scott, what is the point of voting for a strike, if you do not intend on striking. Do you think that we will scare the company into submission? No, we will not... In fact, we will end up losing more. Like I said in an earlier post... Let’s protect our ALREADY good work rules (we have already voted last year {Wilson Poll}, and seen firsthand that our work rules are much more important than pay). We have zero leverage.

 

Let me change my wording before you snap... we all would not want to see that.

I believe that a strike vote is premature at this point.

 

Sailor,

I for one will not cross the picket line. I hope neither will you as there is no excuse for that. Zero. You knew you were coming to work for a unionized company and thus a strike is a possibility. I am on my 3rd POS job right now and I guarantee you I will not cross the picket line.

Premature or not the word is out. It is happening. Way too late to debate it now. All there is left to do is to show your support and vote YES! A NO vote could be a disaster. Do you want to be the bottom feeder for another 10 years? I don't. Unfortunately I am not eligible to vote.

 

Ask yourself what the problem is with the following statement: "Well guys, a strike vote doesn't mean that we actually go on strike." I have a problem with that statement because it shows me that you may not be intending at heart to strike but will vote YES for the appearance of "union solidarity." It can be taken as a bluff by the other side.

My attitude is that if you vote YES, then DOG GONE IT, you better not be bluffing!!! You better have EVERY intention of walking if things get worse and we are eventually released to self-help.

This career...geez...I guess "shiny jet syndrome" makes us delusional when we all could have been surgeons or bankruptcy lawyers!

 

Where do you get the 10 year number from? I do not see NKS as being bottom feeders at all.

Once you vote yes, you are giving the MEC the right to go ahead and after a release from mediation, enter a cool down period in which we will exit without a contract.

No seniority, Merit based upgrades, and people who were hired after you are now senior because they are flying more than you.

With all this information being expelled, I still have no clue how I will vote. We need to be presented with more facts, and what we have to gain, and or lose... I want to know what we all have on the line if a YES vote gets passed.

 

I really feel that this is one of the reason why some guys are hesitant about this whole deal. I think there is a hunger out there for information on what kind of pay and workrules we are asking for. I think if guys are armed with FACTS, then they may not be as hesitant to make a decision one way or the other...

Some of my friends are like "shut this place down!" while others are like "no way in hotel-echo-lima-lima!" By golly, we better be asking for MUCH more than a rumored 10% raise if we're gonna walk...

 

Normann.
Ive done the 2 o 3 POS jobs the last six months, but after a while is tiring.
I wish I could vote, at least I would be paying more attention to whats going on. But coming from a 7 yr AMR adventure, our union never left a good impression on me. Never needed their advice and always paid my dues.
Ive seen how they create controversy, how they spend the commons money and how they tell you that the Co. will try to destroy the employees.

I am not a co. guy, but neither a UNION hit man. I believe in hard work, getting paid and going home.

If I wanted wealth, I've would have gone to CEO School of Thieves.

Like I said, I wish I could vote.

 

I wonder if Prater will be attending any "Tax Day Tea Parties" happening around the country tomorrow!! My guess is probably not....

 

I think we all should be armed with facts rather than go into a strike vote without knowing what our vote is capable of...

If guys who are armed with facts are hesitant, it is because their cost/ opportunity ratio is too high and not work a "YES".

That is exactly why the MEC will not publish anything factual. Hence the "Prepare", one section at a time... They act as if we are all children below them.