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09-11-2014 | 08:24 AM
#8021
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Cole Brantley is apparantly running for C77 Sec/Tres and claims to want honesty and transparancy. Check out the link where he makes this claim.
Brantley - Vote SPA 77
"I hope that each of you can see the benefit of showing this pilot group a level of honesty and transparency in our union that they have never seen before as we enter collective bargaining with an adversarial management as we seek our career advancement in 2015 and beyond."
Wow!
Now google "Cole Brantley NTSB" or go to this link to see how honest and transparant he really is in this NTSB report.
http://www.ntsb.gov/alj/O_n_O/docs/aviation/5122.PDF
According to the file. Apparantly he got a DUI, no big deal, it could have happened to many of us. Then he fails to report it to the Feds, which is not transparant, or honest and is just plain stupid. Then he fails to file a timely appeal which is irresponsible. Then he gives an untrue excuse as to why his report was untimely; more honesty and transparancy? Pathetic!
This alone should exclude this guy as representing Spirit Pilots. But let us go further.
If he did not disclose this to the company on his application, and I have no evidence one way or the other, if they find out, this would be grounds for termination. This could then be held over him and all of us if he is in ALPA leadership which could cause us all to pay for his lack of transparancy and honesty.
IMO even if he did disclose it to Spirit on his application there has got to be a better candidate to represent us.
Brantley - Vote SPA 77
"I hope that each of you can see the benefit of showing this pilot group a level of honesty and transparency in our union that they have never seen before as we enter collective bargaining with an adversarial management as we seek our career advancement in 2015 and beyond."
Wow!
Now google "Cole Brantley NTSB" or go to this link to see how honest and transparant he really is in this NTSB report.
http://www.ntsb.gov/alj/O_n_O/docs/aviation/5122.PDF
According to the file. Apparantly he got a DUI, no big deal, it could have happened to many of us. Then he fails to report it to the Feds, which is not transparant, or honest and is just plain stupid. Then he fails to file a timely appeal which is irresponsible. Then he gives an untrue excuse as to why his report was untimely; more honesty and transparancy? Pathetic!
This alone should exclude this guy as representing Spirit Pilots. But let us go further.
If he did not disclose this to the company on his application, and I have no evidence one way or the other, if they find out, this would be grounds for termination. This could then be held over him and all of us if he is in ALPA leadership which could cause us all to pay for his lack of transparancy and honesty.
IMO even if he did disclose it to Spirit on his application there has got to be a better candidate to represent us.
We've all made mistakes in life. Many of us have had problems and have moved forward with dignity, strength and courage. Who cares if someone has had a DUI, attended a HIMS program, filed bankruptcy, a failed relationship and a divorce, etc. Cole is a great guy! Smart and committed to helping the pilot group. He is also here for the long run and wants this to be his retirement workplace.
You're pathetic. A low class. Keep on doing this and you'll make the new Spirit pilots realize what type of people you are.
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09-11-2014 | 08:24 AM
#8022
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Ha! You join APC to smear candidates. Second post here, just trolling to wage a negative campaign. So now you go out to post a person's record? Dude, this "Axelrod" type of low-blows doesn't work. It's pathetic coming from a "fellow ALPA brother". Desperate and scared already down there in the dungeon? Clearly you are from the current "regime." He proposes to open the books and his is what you do? Typical! Get a life man...Shame on you!
We've all made mistakes in life Many of us have had problems and have moved forward with dignity and courage. Who cares if someone has had a DUI, attended a HIMS program, filed bankruptcy, a failed relationship and a divorce, etc. Cole is a great guy! Smart and committed to helping the pilot group. He is also here for the long run and wants this to be his retirement workplace.
You're pathetic. A low class. Keep on doing this and you'll make the new Spirit pilots realize what type of people you are.
Vote SPA 77 - Home
We've all made mistakes in life Many of us have had problems and have moved forward with dignity and courage. Who cares if someone has had a DUI, attended a HIMS program, filed bankruptcy, a failed relationship and a divorce, etc. Cole is a great guy! Smart and committed to helping the pilot group. He is also here for the long run and wants this to be his retirement workplace.
You're pathetic. A low class. Keep on doing this and you'll make the new Spirit pilots realize what type of people you are.
Vote SPA 77 - Home
09-11-2014 | 08:30 AM
#8023
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I don't see anything wrong, after all it our union, our contract, our thread, our candidates. Here at least we can expose the good and the bad, although I don't share the full name use on this public forum.
09-11-2014 | 08:37 AM
#8024
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I don't agree with full name use unless the poster chooses to disclose their identity. I do think the last 3 weeks have seen this issue been beat to death and this thread has degraded into the vocal minority waging a smear campaign against their foes. The amount of useful information being disseminated on this topic has reached the end of the road. I don't think theres anyone in council 77 who still wants to be informed that has not seen a clear "for and against" argument on these topics.
09-11-2014 | 08:51 AM
#8025
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Only one side is on the "smear" side.
09-11-2014 | 09:03 AM
#8026
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I agree, if it's a candidate from the "other side" as this side states, it wouldn't be long before something similar surfaces. Nothing clean in politics, if you put your name on the hat, be ready for stuff like this, if you are running in the premises of bringing "transparency" you have to lead on it.
Just saying
Just saying
09-11-2014 | 09:17 AM
#8027
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I agree, if it's a candidate from the "other side" as this side states, it wouldn't be long before something similar surfaces. Nothing clean in politics, if you put your name on the hat, be ready for stuff like this, if you are running in the premises of bringing "transparency" you have to lead on it.
Just saying
Just saying
"An Air Line Pilot will conduct his affairs with other members of the profession and with ALPA in such a manner as to bring credit to the profession and ALPA as well as to himself.
• He will not falsely or maliciously injure the professional reputation, prospects, or job security of another pilot, yet if he knows of professional incompetence or conduct detrimental to the profession or to ALPA, he will not shrink from revealing this to the proper authorities within ALPA, so that the weak member may be brought up to the standards demanded, or ALPA and the profession alike may be rid of one unworthy to share its rewards."
Shame on the other side. And I bet you that Spiritman's public post, without knowing all the facts of the case, is grounds for a lawsuit or sanction from the union.
Just saying...
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09-11-2014 | 09:38 AM
#8028
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Yea Really?
"In case anyone is wondering, Cole won the appeal at the NTSB, and was cleared."
Then post the letter that he was cleared. From what was he cleared, the DUI, His failure to report it? His BS story about why his appeal was untimley.
When you propose to be Mr. Honesty and Integrity then, as they say, if you talk the talk, then walk the walk.
This guy has made honesty and transparancy his issue. Now his version of Honesty and Transparancy have been made "transparant" and it doesnt seem too honest.
Not just the DUI, as I said in the first post, no big deal, we all make mistakes. But the complete dysfunctional, dishonest, noncompliant behavior in the aftermath show ones true colors. Cole showed his.
Like I said IMO we could do better!
"In case anyone is wondering, Cole won the appeal at the NTSB, and was cleared."
Then post the letter that he was cleared. From what was he cleared, the DUI, His failure to report it? His BS story about why his appeal was untimley.
When you propose to be Mr. Honesty and Integrity then, as they say, if you talk the talk, then walk the walk.
This guy has made honesty and transparancy his issue. Now his version of Honesty and Transparancy have been made "transparant" and it doesnt seem too honest.
Not just the DUI, as I said in the first post, no big deal, we all make mistakes. But the complete dysfunctional, dishonest, noncompliant behavior in the aftermath show ones true colors. Cole showed his.
Like I said IMO we could do better!
09-11-2014 | 10:00 AM
#8029
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Yea Really?
"In case anyone is wondering, Cole won the appeal at the NTSB, and was cleared."
Then post the letter that he was cleared. From what was he cleared, the DUI, His failure to report it? His BS story about why his appeal was untimley.
When you propose to be Mr. Honesty and Integrity then, as they say, if you talk the talk, then walk the walk.
This guy has made honesty and transparancy his issue. Now his version of Honesty and Transparancy have been made "transparant" and it doesnt seem too honest.
Not just the DUI, as I said in the first post, no big deal, we all make mistakes. But the complete dysfunctional, dishonest, noncompliant behavior in the aftermath show ones true colors. Cole showed his.
Like I said IMO we could do better!
"In case anyone is wondering, Cole won the appeal at the NTSB, and was cleared."
Then post the letter that he was cleared. From what was he cleared, the DUI, His failure to report it? His BS story about why his appeal was untimley.
When you propose to be Mr. Honesty and Integrity then, as they say, if you talk the talk, then walk the walk.
This guy has made honesty and transparancy his issue. Now his version of Honesty and Transparancy have been made "transparant" and it doesnt seem too honest.
Not just the DUI, as I said in the first post, no big deal, we all make mistakes. But the complete dysfunctional, dishonest, noncompliant behavior in the aftermath show ones true colors. Cole showed his.
Like I said IMO we could do better!
The only thing you're doing is hurting the SPA77 candidates you support with dirty tactics. Keep it up! We like it...
09-11-2014 | 11:07 AM
#8030
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His BS story? So what are you now? Judge, expert and executioner? I'm sure you have the 1000+ pages worth of documentation, don't you? Post it yourself since you got yourself into this mess. If he had not been cleared from a case that started and wrapped up in the early 2000's, when he was a student pilot, how could be have flown for his former airline and Spirit today? I would watch what you post here as your smearing and clear violation of the ALPA Code of Ethics might come with consequences. By the way, only one person loves slandering Cole to the pilots he flies with, specifically mentioning this case, and we know who he is.
The only thing you're doing is hurting the SPA77 candidates you support with dirty tactics. Keep it up! We like it...
The only thing you're doing is hurting the SPA77 candidates you support with dirty tactics. Keep it up! We like it...
Exactly A320, additionally, the person attacking Cole with this "dirt" hasn't done his homework.
If anyone cares, this chapter of Cole's career was completely known and resolved in Coles favor well prior to his employment with Spirit Airlines. I assure you that Spirit was well aware of this situation when he was offered employment and they knowingly made that offer. End of story.
Except - desperate people trying to hold control of the SPA MEC at any cost are willing to stoop to new lows and try to smear a local Sec/Treas Candidate because he's aligned with who they deem to be their opposition.
Ryan, James, I ask again - will you condemn this type of campaign tactic?
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