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01-15-2015 | 06:37 AM
#9551
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Originally Posted by putzin
Now if the company wants to double every rate, we can talk. I'll be happy as a 2nd year fo at $144hr. At that rate I can afford to call in sick without pay, because many times that's what it takes to make your life palatable with PBS.
PBS sucks. Spirit 3 year FOs making 50k less per year than their legacy contemporary also sucks.
01-15-2015 | 06:51 AM
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[QUOTE=DeadStick;1804193
So you're saying that there is a per/hour rate that you might consider PBS? That's all I dared to suggest as well. I think we all know though, that the company will never offer us anything close to the rates to make the suggestion of PBS anything other than laughable, so this is all really a non-issue.
PBS sucks. Spirit 3 year FOs making 50k less per year than their legacy contemporary also sucks.[/QUOTE]
No Dead, it was sarcasm, tongue in cheek...
I would be a firm "no" with any TA that included PBS.
So you're saying that there is a per/hour rate that you might consider PBS? That's all I dared to suggest as well. I think we all know though, that the company will never offer us anything close to the rates to make the suggestion of PBS anything other than laughable, so this is all really a non-issue.
PBS sucks. Spirit 3 year FOs making 50k less per year than their legacy contemporary also sucks.[/QUOTE]
No Dead, it was sarcasm, tongue in cheek...
I would be a firm "no" with any TA that included PBS.
01-15-2015 | 07:05 AM
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Does anyone know why Spirit wasnt included in the WSJ rankings? Frontier and Virgin where but not us 
Oh and F PBS
Oh and F PBS
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01-15-2015 | 07:18 AM
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And that upgrade is more of a pay raise than the boost to FO rates coming in the next CBA. We shouldn't lose sight of that as well. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that the company would like to pay us significantly higher rates - paid for by monetizing our work rules.
I will say if our fo rates were comparable to market the upgrade would be less important to me because my upgrade comes with a commute for an indefinite period of time.
01-15-2015 | 07:28 AM
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Do you have some crystal ball that shows what a ratified pay scale would look like? Your opinion is very defeatist.
I will say if our fo rates were comparable to market the upgrade would be less important to me because my upgrade comes with a commute for an indefinite period of time.
I will say if our fo rates were comparable to market the upgrade would be less important to me because my upgrade comes with a commute for an indefinite period of time.
01-15-2015 | 07:44 AM
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"Fast-growing Spirit Airlines , because of its small size, wasn’t required to report consumer information to the DOT in 2014, but will be in 2015. Still, flight-tracking services found Spirit’s on-time-arrivals rate lower than its competitors."
I think we know we're dead last, so I guess there's no reason to confirm what we already know??
01-15-2015 | 07:48 AM
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Sacrificing FO rates for one's own upgrade sounds like the IGM (I Got Mine) mentality that continually screws the guy below you. I know that's not what you mean to suggest, and I see your point, but we'll need to make this an appealing place to work when the upgrade dries up (Since upgrading is what we have to do just to make what legacy FOs make).
01-15-2015 | 07:55 AM
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Sacrificing FO rates for one's own upgrade sounds like the IGM (I Got Mine) mentality that continually screws the guy below you. I know that's not what you mean to suggest, and I see your point, but we'll need to make this an appealing place to work when the upgrade dries up (Since upgrading is what we have to do just to make what legacy FOs make).
01-15-2015 | 07:59 AM
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Sacrificing FO rates for one's own upgrade sounds like the IGM (I Got Mine) mentality that continually screws the guy below you. I know that's not what you mean to suggest, and I see your point, but we'll need to make this an appealing place to work when the upgrade dries up (Since upgrading is what we have to do just to make what legacy FOs make).
The company needs to figure out how to bake a bigger pie for all of us.
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