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01-23-2015 | 02:00 PM
#9911
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From: In the Garage
Finally got a new login after god knows how many years....
Can I play?
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Can I play?
HIT ME!
01-23-2015 | 02:20 PM
#9912
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Give the DL LOA it's own number, get five hours per day; and rewrite the Protection LOA to where the pilot gets the benefit of the doubt and I'll vote for them.
01-23-2015 | 03:10 PM
#9913
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Email from the union states that the EFB protection language is industry standard. Anybody actually compared the protection language to other contracts? I was initially a little concerned about the protection language, but if it is truly industry standard than hopefully it shouldn't be an issue.
01-23-2015 | 04:42 PM
#9914
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From: Airbus FO
NO until there is some give and take. That is a negotiation. Not, "accept this or else". That is an ultimatum.
01-23-2015 | 05:09 PM
#9915
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Feel free to vote no as I will be doing but in theory a TA is not a first offer, it represents a back and forth negotiation between the company and the negotiating committee which represents you. To look at all TAs as a "first offer" would be misguided.
01-23-2015 | 05:13 PM
#9916
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Email from the union states that the EFB protection language is industry standard. Anybody actually compared the protection language to other contracts? I was initially a little concerned about the protection language, but if it is truly industry standard than hopefully it shouldn't be an issue.
01-23-2015 | 05:23 PM
#9917
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor
I'm hung up on the pay vs the enormous savings that this iPad and DL will give to the company. I just don't see why we don't get the full 18hr paid.
This is where I am coming from. This is supposed to be a negotiation. Why should we accept the first deal brought forward? We know that the company will probably never pay all 18 hours, but they may meet us somewhere in the middle and we may be successful in further defining Fair Market Value so that it is not so ambiguous and one sided. If that means we have to reject the LOA in order to bring it back to the table then that is what we should do.
NO until there is some give and take. That is a negotiation. Not, "accept this or else". That is an ultimatum.
Originally Posted by Sailor
I'm hung up on the pay vs the enormous savings that this iPad and DL will give to the company. I just don't see why we don't get the full 18hr paid.
This is where I am coming from. This is supposed to be a negotiation. Why should we accept the first deal brought forward? We know that the company will probably never pay all 18 hours, but they may meet us somewhere in the middle and we may be successful in further defining Fair Market Value so that it is not so ambiguous and one sided. If that means we have to reject the LOA in order to bring it back to the table then that is what we should do.
NO until there is some give and take. That is a negotiation. Not, "accept this or else". That is an ultimatum.
01-23-2015 | 06:50 PM
#9918
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Anyone know when our w2 should be on link? I know they have to the end of the month but I've heard some have theirs already
01-23-2015 | 07:01 PM
#9919
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From: A320 captain
Regarding the LOA I just don't see scare tactics or threat being employed here. There is nothing substantial to win...
It's 2015 now and we need our efforts directed where needed for real and substantial gains.
01-23-2015 | 07:03 PM
#9920
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From: A320
Any ideas how this might effect PT's and PC's?
If my pad goes bad, do I have to buy a new one from the co., or will they just trade me for a spare?
If a pad gets lost, will they offer loaners til it is found?
What do other airlines do in the situations?
If my pad goes bad, do I have to buy a new one from the co., or will they just trade me for a spare?
If a pad gets lost, will they offer loaners til it is found?
What do other airlines do in the situations?
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