dn_wisconsin

I think it's a good book. He's is a smart guy and as you said updating/adding to it all the time. For a new hire I'd use it as supplement. Only because it's not from Spirit. All of our questions from the oral guide and other places are based from our CBT. Yes, it's older and needs to be updated to reflect our current fleet but it is coming.

I'm probably also bias because I'm in the training dept but wanted to put it out there. I think it's a great idea to have as many resources as possible. Just keep in mind that guide might not be Spirit specific. Studying the systems is really on the student here. Someone commented in this thread or the other that you don't need to study systems until you're here. That's BS. That should be the 2nd or 3rd time you go through them.

Mudpile

2nd or 3rd time would be ideal, but isn't necessary. It all goes on how hard you want to study while you're in training.

dn_wisconsin

Sounds like you will be one of our wonderful captain upgrade challenges. Please, do the bare minimum. The next guy up will be happy to get your slot.

Better yet, good luck on your first PC.

Mudpile

Hahaha, easy there big boy. Years ago Spirit wanted me to start class 8 days after my interview. A family member fell ill and spent a week in the ICU pretty much dead. I spent every moment I had next to said family member.

Now, Mr. Training Department worker. Would you please re-read my post?

YOU don't know what someone might be going through with their personal life right before training... I'll say it again... Going through systems 2-3 times would be ideal. But isn't necessary.

And yes, 3 pc's later, you still haven't washed me out.

On a different note, I hope you have a safe and wonderful Thanskgiving with your friends and family.

dn_wisconsin

I read your post. Instead of encouraging the guy to come over prepared you tell him it isn't necessary. I guess I've never been comfortable doing the bare minimum or telling others it's ok for them to. No one in the training dept looks to wash anyone out, myself included. But with the issues we have been having lately t would be more appropriate to encourage new hires to come prepared. You apparently haven't upgraded yet but if/when you do would you rather have an FO who just got through or a useful source of knowledge in the cockpit. Especially if sh** hit the fan. I apologize if what I said came across as a personal attack. I shouldn't have said it that way. I just didn't like the way it sounded like it was ok for him to come in with the bare minimum studied.

I can relate to your example. I am currently in the hospital myself.

Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you are home with your family and get to enjoy the day.

Mudpile

It's okay, I have thick skin. I do agree that one should always prepare to the best of their ability before any training. I'm personally not as smart as some of my other colleagues. I try to start hitting the books 2-3 months prior to an event and will also review during long range cruise, throughout the year, if I remember to.

I believe we have a great training department. Failures happen. But more than likely, it's due to pilots showing up WAAAY too unprepared. Scarier part is that they may fly the line like that.

I too should have written my post better. By all means, show up as prepared as you can! But if you find yourself, like me, in a short time frame to reporting to Spirit... Focus on your current job first. Your priority is to get your passangers (at your current airline) to and from safely. It would be silly to get stressed out learning the bus and messing up limitations/SOP's of your current airline. Bend some metal, and you may not have a job at Spirit to come to.

If you find yourself showing up not having cracked a book, it is still doable (although not the brightest idea!) but with a good work ethic, study groups, etc. you can do it! Just remember, Spirit isn't going to spoon feed you.

Then again, like I said before, I'm no super pilot... Maybe someone else is better at learning multiple aircraft.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!

bubi352

I wrote this interactive book. It's something I have been working on for over two years. I am updating it on a regular basis adding more content, especially with the introduction of the NEO (P&W 1100G) coming up next month.

Chimpy

Just downloaded it yesterday! Great stuff

BlueHenFR8Dawg

Do you get the updates/revisions, if bought?

bubi352

Yes. It's free. That's the beauty of a digital and interactive book. I can update it with more content as I wish. You get a notification similar to an app update when a new download is available.