I personally let my apps expire on airlineapps.com because I have no interest in the legacies right now. Not everyone wants to fly for Untidy or 'Merican! I have a great Qol, and that my friend is not a disservice to my family! If money became my main focus in life, I would become a very angry and ungrateful man.

 

K bye! ...and if you're senior to me, thanks in advance for the bump!!

 

Yes it is. I came here when most of the majors were recalling and there was only a trickle of hiring off the street. Also, this was the first place that called, B6 was next when I was a new hire. Didn't make sense to leave for them.
There are only so many regional pilots the mainline carriers have to pick from. If we do not get a quality contract here, it makes no financial sense to be here considering the difference in career earnings a pilot could have at a legacy.
Many don't realize what a huge difference in your retirement a DC makes compared to the 9% match we have.
Even if you are in your mid 40's, you can still retire at AA in the top 1000.
No need to flame me just because I think my financial security will be better at an airline that pays way more and has a better retirement. I just don't think that NKS has the critical mass to be great for 30 years.
When I am 65, I will let you know how it worked out��

 

That's great, as long as the economy doesn't go to hell again (and you know it will). I'd much rather be here than on the bottom of a legacy list when the sh!t hits the fan again. Ask the AA guys about those recalls, and USAir guys about their pay rates until recently....and UAL guys about how much they adore their management.

 

Have you looked at the number of retirements? AA is just hiring for attrition, not growth. Attrition alone at the legacies will eat up most of the hirable regional pilots very quickly.
I am just saying that airlines go in cycles and right now I think it is in a sustained upswing for hiring for the foreseeable future. If you put your apps out and never hear a thing, that is good if you like being here, but if you have an opportunity to interview someplace with better pay, retirement and security, then you can make an informed decision of which place will give you the most of what you want.
As far as what UAL guys think of their mgt? Do you really think you will retire here with Ben as your CEO? Mgt changes all the time.

 

It amazes me how many Spirit pilots here conflate criticism of the airline with personal attack.

 

I wasn't attacking you at all, I just asked if you had your apps out and what seat you were in

So, Ca or Fo?

 

I sympathize with your frustrations. We all want a good deal and should've gotten it months ago. However, resigning yourself already as a no voter is short sighted. If it's a cr@p TA then we should all vote no. But we aren't going to get industry leading everywhere at DOS no matter how long we wait. The majority of this group wants to preserve work rules with their raises. The company won't roll over for both. Until something is out its all rumors, but be prepared for a long ugly fight if you want to turn down anything that's not across the board industry leading at DOS.

 

I know it is hard to accept the fact we work for a bottom feeder airline that is consistently last airline in DOT stats. However, the passive agressive approach isn't endearing.

 

I am CA and looking to quit, but I am looking at leaving flying for a traditional job.