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Spirit of NKS, Part II

Old 04-26-2016 | 05:30 AM
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Fine with me, I sit back and enjoy pushing late EVERY SINGLE leg because I don't give a **** if the rampers would rather play craps then push me on time
Old 04-26-2016 | 05:37 AM
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Told you guys this place was a complete shiiiithole run by scum
Old 04-26-2016 | 05:41 AM
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Sounds like Bob is getting served 2.5 year upgrades at NK bul$hitinformation along with his vanilla ice cream. Someone needs to inform bob we have legacy carriers with shorter upgrade times.
Old 04-26-2016 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by VegassBus
Told you guys this place was a complete shiiiithole run by scum
Did you hear him say that our peer groups are Allegiant and Frontier? He also summed it up as they are not going to increase our pay because they offer pilots growth instead. He said that this airline offers upgrades to captain within a couple of years and other airlines don't.
These f-ing guys are out to lunch. Do they have any idea that most FO's at legacy carriers make more than our captains?
This earnings conference call should be a wake up call to this pilot group. Unless we take more extreme tactics, we will never get a contract that pays any more than Allegiant or Frontier. Welcome to being a bottom feeder.
Old 04-26-2016 | 05:49 AM
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Nothing will change here. Too many happy YES men loving subpar wages and going above and beyond for this dump!

We need a ****ed off pilot group..but we are far from that!
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:00 AM
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Can someone link to the transcript when made available?
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
Nothing will change here. Too many happy YES men loving subpar wages and going above and beyond for this dump!

We need a ****ed off pilot group..but we are far from that!
They are well aware of the pay at other airlines guys...seriously how did u really expect Bob to answer the question...this has zero to do with OT,JRM,solidarity etc... It's just a company doing what a company does and the only choice we have is to quit or ride the wave....we will only get a contract when the company is ready period...the legacy carriers went 13+ years without a contract so I really don't know where u guys get off thinking those groups are so much different or have more power than this group...
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
They are well aware of the pay at other airlines guys...seriously how did u really expect Bob to answer the question...this has zero to do with OT,JRM,solidarity etc... It's just a company doing what a company does and the only choice we have is to quit or ride the wave....we will only get a contract when the company is ready period...the legacy carriers went 13+ years without a contract so I really don't know where u guys get off thinking those groups are so much different or have more power than this group...
Yes, ride the wave and get YOURS while you can.
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
They are well aware of the pay at other airlines guys...seriously how did u really expect Bob to answer the question...this has zero to do with OT,JRM,solidarity etc... It's just a company doing what a company does and the only choice we have is to quit or ride the wave....we will only get a contract when the company is ready period...the legacy carriers went 13+ years without a contract so I really don't know where u guys get off thinking those groups are so much different or have more power than this group...
The problem is this. You have hypocritical SOB like Jyri, sending us emails on holidays saying we should go flying if we have nothing better to do. Really Jyri?, Go F----- yourself. You want me to leave my family on a holiday to help an operation that in the past blatantly violated the contract (red/green). You want me to work on a holiday when we both know Payroll will ONCE AGAIN F----- up and most likely won't give me holiday pay unless I send 6 emails a day for two weeks.

You tell us (along with Ackerman) that the company is on the brink of "going under", lol due to a meltdown yet you wont offer JRM or MUP? Again, GO F----- yourself.


Now, you also have Bendo who has the nerve to tell us we need to work on our priority fleet launch yet they impliment some half assssses flight planning software after two days of testing.

He asks us to help yet doesn't give us the tools to do it. F----- you.

I'm so tired of constantly being disappointed by this place and have to listen to managements bull****, both on weekly podcast and an earnings call where blabbering Bob is basically lying to investors.


Those are just some of my issues.

Happy Gdman Tuesday everybody. How's our fleet launch today? 60%........who am I kidding, that would be an improvement
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:20 AM
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Ual/cal and delta went 8-10 and that was during post 9-11, the housing bubble/economic crash. When the economy stabilized and profits returned even at $80-100/barrel the money came in 2012. AA/Usair was a result of the merger and a direct result of what delta and united already got in 2012. United and delta are on round two and it's only going up.

13+ I don't think so, and they aren't getting snubbed during record profits like we are. So yeah I'd say either their managements are more caring (no) or their pilot group has more influence than we seem to have. We can do what they did but we must act together.

Also, management isn't out to lunch they know what the market is. They are giving lip service to the investment community on this call. WE need to be the ones to enlighten the investment community and give them our side of the story.
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