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Old 06-15-2023 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TooMuchTime
The thought occurred to me today that you could have those two junior pilots as the relief pilots together on a flight in 4 months, at age 23 with maybe 4000 hours between them. Is that a possibility?

how about some of them to be ex Atlas 777/747 pilots that crossed those oceans before you ? Or other cargo operators .
FYI we hired many of them
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Old 06-15-2023 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by widebodywannabe
Wow! You think that amount of 787 vacancies will continue? Or does it really vary that much week per week?
The last vacancy bid that had unfilled 787 FOs in EWR was the one that was awarded on April 11th. We have had two vacancy bids since then and neither of them had any unfilled slots in 787s in EWR.

Unfilled assignments on vacancy bids can be used for new hire assignments for up to 92 days after the bid award. So, the 40 unfilled assignments on the April vacancy award will expire on July 12th. Not sure how many of the the 40 they have already given out, but the last date for finishing them would be the July 11th class. After that the only way they could give them out is if we have another vacancy bid and more go unfilled. I would guess we will be having another vacancy bid in mid July, but one never knows for sure when they will come and what will be offered! So, classes on the 18th of July and beyond would only be able to get 787 out of EWR if we have another bid by then and more go unfilled.

There have been SFO 787 unfilled spots on the more recent vacancy bids, so there is still a chance of getting the 787 in classes after the 11th of July, they would just have to be in SFO.

The company gets to decide which of the unfilled assignments they want to fill in each class (up to the 92 day limit) , so you never know for sure which of them will come when (if at all). Generally it seems they are just trying to fill their training plan which currently is train as many people as you can in every fleet! So, they look at which active folks they need to send to training and how many new hires they have coming and use some kind of Gonkulator to determine what the best mix is of those two sources to fill all of their training slots? The inner programming of their gonkulator is a mystery to all, so we just wait and see what this thread shows as the training assignments every week.
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Old 06-15-2023 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TooMuchTime
The thought occurred to me today that you could have those two junior pilots as the relief pilots together on a flight in 4 months, at age 23 with maybe 4000 hours between them. Is that a possibility?
Isn’t 24 years of age a requirement of an unrestricted ATP, or has that gone away?
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Old 06-15-2023 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
Isn’t 24 years of age a requirement of an unrestricted ATP, or has that gone away?
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Old 06-15-2023 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
The last vacancy bid that had unfilled 787 FOs in EWR was the one that was awarded on April 11th. We have had two vacancy bids since then and neither of them had any unfilled slots in 787s in EWR.



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any unfilled EWR 756 slots in the last few vacancies?
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Old 06-15-2023 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
any unfilled EWR 756 slots in the last few vacancies?
6 in the latest one
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Old 06-15-2023 | 08:49 PM
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How is 737 LAS going ? Is it pretty senior, could you get it in the the first vacancy bid after training?
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Old 06-16-2023 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ecam321
How is 737 LAS going ? Is it pretty senior, could you get it in the the first vacancy bid after training?
FO is going a little more senior but that’s because pilots a breaking their WB seat lock. Once that get out of jail pathway closes it may go junior? LAS CA is going unfilled
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Old 06-16-2023 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
FO is going a little more senior but that’s because pilots a breaking their WB seat lock. Once that get out of jail pathway closes it may go junior? LAS CA is going unfilled
Any chance you could shed some light on the MCO vacancy bid and how that turned out on this time around, please?
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Old 06-17-2023 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
Any chance you could shed some light on the MCO vacancy bid and how that turned out on this time around, please?
Captain is trending progressively junior

No posted FO vacancies this time but demand also looks pretty junior

The seat-lock dynamics affect mco as well. The company seems very clear they want a TPA co-base which would likely make it very accessible to junior FO’s
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