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Old 04-30-2018 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Better on the 777 but still reserve on both.

The real bummer is the pilots right on the G-Line for the 787. A lot of current RSV 787 pilots bid out and off and everyone that bid on is lineholder seniority. IF the snap shot was the award there would be a lot of junior 787 FOs pushed back into RSV for the first time in several years. If I was close to the G line I’d be looking for other options after today.
What's the G-line on 787? And do you know the G-line on 777? I'm curious to see if those are much different.

This is just the first snapshot. A lot of things will change - some will change their bid, some will pull their bid, and others will add their bid before this closes.


Edit: I just looked at my position on the 777 vs 787 and the split is 12% in favor of the 777; larger than I would have expected. 787 FO is only 3% better than SFO 320 CA for me.
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Old 04-30-2018 | 11:39 AM
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What's the G-line on 787? And do you know the G-line on 777? I'm curious to see if those are much different.

This is just the first snapshot. A lot of things will change - some will change their bid, some will pull their bid, and others will add their bid before this closes.


Edit: I just looked at my position on the 777 vs 787 and the split is 12% in favor of the 777; larger than I would have expected. 787 FO is only 3% better than SFO 320 CA for me.
I'm a junior line holder on the 777...my seniority is definitely better on the triple than it would be on the 787. Judging from this snapshot my situation will only improve. Of course it is only a snapshot so don't read too much into it, but at around the 9000 seniority range the 777 is the better place to be (unless you're senior to me ).
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Old 04-30-2018 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
What's the G-line on 787? And do you know the G-line on 777? I'm curious to see if those are much different.

This is just the first snapshot. A lot of things will change - some will change their bid, some will pull their bid, and others will add their bid before this closes.


Edit: I just looked at my position on the 777 vs 787 and the split is 12% in favor of the 777; larger than I would have expected. 787 FO is only 3% better than SFO 320 CA for me.
It’s mid to low 9000s on the 787. My percentage got worse on the 787 and better on the 777 with this snapshot. A lot will change but typically the final will be more senior than the first snapshot
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Old 04-30-2018 | 02:43 PM
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The bottom captain on the snapshot is 10000 on the seniority list? That’s approximately 80th percentile.

This will be “the good old days” for many pilots.

Enjoy the ride, folks.

Hopefully this is just the first of many vacancy bids in the near term.
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Old 04-30-2018 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
The bottom captain on the snapshot is 10000 on the seniority list? That’s approximately 80th percentile.

This will be “the good old days” for many pilots.

Enjoy the ride, folks.

Hopefully this is just the first of many vacancy bids in the near term.
Only about 250 numbers from post-SLI (2013 hires) to Captain.
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Old 04-30-2018 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Only about 250 numbers from post-SLI (2013 hires) to Captain.
First post merger hire was NOV 2012 and is about 10100.....
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Old 04-30-2018 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
First post merger hire was NOV 2012 and is about 10100.....
I stand corrected, I thought it was Spring ‘13. Still... almost there (for one snapshot).
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Old 04-30-2018 | 03:55 PM
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“80th percentile” is a 10 year upgrade. Everybody calm down
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Old 04-30-2018 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmak2
“80th percentile” is a 10 year upgrade. Everybody calm down
It's really like a 5 year upgrade since no one was hired for 5 of the 10 years. And very few retired as well for that matter.
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Old 04-30-2018 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro2nd
It's really like a 5 year upgrade since no one was hired for 5 of the 10 years. And very few retired as well for that matter.
It’ll take 2 more years at this rate to hit your “5 year upgrade” which will be right about 7 years by that point. That’s pretty standard at a legacy, but certainly not the good old days
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