That same group of people are clamoring for scope relied on the new forum. More RJs in exchange for WB pay raises......because that’ll punish those darn junior pukes!!

 

The crazy amount of work argument doesn’t play when you’re salaried.

Yes, they “plan” on doing it. Haven’t done it yet. They can cram a TA down our throat in a matter of weeks but the process of giving oneself a pay cut seems quite time consuming.

 

they proposed a TA, we voted. Your word choice smacks of a good victim narrative.

I am 100% on board for keeping the union accountable. I believe there was an journalistic organization inside SWA that reported on the SWAPA. The important difference was that I believe they were largely impartial and did not seek office or directly gain from criticizing union actions (or lack thereof).

The weird thing about this anti-Insler movement, is it is coming largely from people who have their own political agenda. People who definitely gain when he loses. That is why I feel so disappointed when I hear guys like oldMako propping up “the gardener’s” (JB type) BS… How can anyone feel like rumors or second-hand “information” that come from that camp has any validity to it?

 

As much as you and others want to muddy the waters in support of your position/Todd, this isn’t about SWA, anti Todd, MEC takeover, migrant worker’s rights, senior vs junior.

Very SIMPLE FACTS. The MEC and select committee members are drawing a salary that is ~50% more than where the current line pilot concessionary MPG lies. They are receiving a $2000/mo expense stipend which they elected to continue even when their travel is severely curtailed due to Covid.

It speaks volumes when everyone else has taken a cut but they have not. It’s not like they didn’t see our cuts coming.

 

of all the things in the world to get spun up about, the salaries of our union members during one of the most dynamic times in our entire careers hardly seems worth it.

TI will be judged on the success or failure of this TA, not how many weeks it takes them to implement a pay cut. and on that topic, we have voted to work less and receive the same compensation. This is hardly the time I want our union members taking their eye off the prize. I want scope enforced, I want the company held accountable for the decisions they make for our airline going forward. Much of management will not be here in 10 years, but more than half of our pilot group depends on the future success of this airline.

It’s time for SK and TI to do what they’re payed to do. Quit the pettiness and let them sink or float

 

Its worth it to the the highest bottom third guy who got a 50% paycut and believed he would never get furloughed. Its worth it to the 30 year service CA who started before some union leaders were even employed here.

Lead by example and people will see your cause. Keep your pay intact and ask us for cuts, well, maybe now we understand why union leaders pushed so hard for yes votes.

 

If the passengers don’t return it is going to be ugly ... BK #2 ... this is worse than 9/11 from a business standpoint ... yet we argue over the arrangement of the deck chairs ... I’m glad I’m out and really feel for those of you that are still there

 

Running out of excuses Duvie? Surely Todd and the boys can walk and chew gum at the same time. Taking a cut isn’t that hard unless they can’t separate themselves from that ALPA gravy train. That John’s Hopkins tuition must be really expensive. Even Scooter is suffering under a token cut.

They can do what’s right or pray we don’t furlough in the future. Either way, the result is the same.

Obtw, you continue with this hourly vs salary comparison. It isn’t working for you Duvie. In the real world when they hand out pay cuts, they still expect you to do the work. The worn out “less work for the same compensation” mantra isn’t scoring you points either. Would you like to revise that statement? I can’t wait til the spouses see our paychecks on the 16th. I can hear it now. “What the he!# happened to your paycheck?” Same compensation? I think not.

Bye Jeff

 

I support changes on the negotiating committee. I would like the senior two thirds more represented.

 

If so, I didn't see that.

Big picture. ...triploss pay is designed to "compensate you fiarly" so as you don't lose money doing union work or union service. The idea behind it is you flew a 4 day trip you'd get an equivalent 4 days of triploss based on the minimum value of a day. Now that we are reducing guarantee, we are reducing what a pilot could potentially earn.

A fresh look at tirploss policies are in order. We should not have anyone on fulltime triploss making more than what our line pilots will be making. Whatever the MEC approves as it relates to pay should be something the MEC is willing to work for or work under.

If our guarantee is 60 hours, then....thats only fair.