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07-16-2023 | 08:08 AM
#101
New Hire
Joined: Jul 2023
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5:15 per calendar day has to do with pay for a trip. If you have a 3-day trip, it doesn't matter how much pay/DH is there, or how many duty periods. Your min protected pay for that trip is 15:45.
07-16-2023 | 08:17 AM
#102
Tu-144 VV-A14 KR860 Typed
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 155
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RE: Jumpseat
I have to chime in on this.
IT'S SIMPLE.
Seniority based up to 72 hours before. Put in like you would for a trip trade. At 72 hours, most senior person gets it. After that, if nobody has listed, first come-first served. Now everybody can plan. Easy.
I’ll take seniority for the JS over who happens to have the fastest fingers BS any day. Did you also notice all new A/C must have 2 JS? Did you notice that if you by a cheap seat you no longer need a backup flight? If you’re that worried buy a ticket and sleep well at night.
IT'S SIMPLE.
Seniority based up to 72 hours before. Put in like you would for a trip trade. At 72 hours, most senior person gets it. After that, if nobody has listed, first come-first served. Now everybody can plan. Easy.
07-16-2023 | 08:17 AM
#103
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,541
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From: Head pillow fluffer, Assistant bed maker
They'd be given as aircraft assignments in new hire class. It's not out of the realm of possibility that these positions would stop to the bottom of a class or two. That's where the "forced" could come from. With it carrying a deep freeze, check rides every 6 months, not being able to touch WB flying fr a long time, being stuck at the bottom of the category for years, these positions might not be as desirable as you'd think for a new hire. Could drop to the bottom. A new hire could pick NBFO in new hire class and still get to the left seat a year or so later without the things that go along with getting left seat bid on day one.
07-16-2023 | 08:20 AM
#104
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 819
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From: 756 left
Right. They'd be in the right seat the first year anyway. So why volunteer and bid for the left seat in new hire class and take on all of the associated restrictions when you could just bid it a year later while leaving multiple ways out of the fleet, open?
07-16-2023 | 08:27 AM
#105
Reserve
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 76
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From: 777 FO
This is off topic, but it’s been grinding my gears to hear commuting is choice. Every time I hear that, BAM, instant a-hole in my opinion.
You don’t know me or my situation. If you’re looking down on me because I don’t live 30 minutes from EWR or SFO, then you can enjoy the overnight on your own.
For many people it’s not a choice, so you can shove a marshallers wand up your b-hole.
You don’t know me or my situation. If you’re looking down on me because I don’t live 30 minutes from EWR or SFO, then you can enjoy the overnight on your own.
For many people it’s not a choice, so you can shove a marshallers wand up your b-hole.
If momma is cool moving to base, move to base.
If momma doesn’t wanna move to base, don’t move to base. Better to commute home to a happy wife than to drive home to an unhappy wife.
Hopefully this doesn’t make me an A-hole,B-hole or any other type of hole. Now back to actual contract talk.
07-16-2023 | 08:30 AM
#106
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Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 399
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07-16-2023 | 08:31 AM
#107
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Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 572
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Reserve minimum pay guarantee (MPG) 4:17:39 per day: *17 = 73hrs give or take
Also, Reserve Call-out pay (“Show-No Go” pay) increased to 5 hours of LPV -> if you get an assignment that is subsequently cancelled before show? because if you fly anything it’s 5:15 minimum right?
07-16-2023 | 08:38 AM
#108
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Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 94
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was huge for this cycle…just like the DL no vote last cycle gave us a great extension last time and me too when DL patterned off it. 35-40% total raise is huge.
07-16-2023 | 08:44 AM
#109
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Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 94
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No. they have to still have 350 hrs at UAL to go to upgrade, so it can’t be your INA award. You would have to something else first no matter what.
07-16-2023 | 08:45 AM
#110
On Reserve
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 63
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The 2:30 has to do with you min protected pay for that month. If it's a 30-day month, and you have no absences, your min pay for the month is 30x2:30 = 75 hours.
5:15 per calendar day has to do with pay for a trip. If you have a 3-day trip, it doesn't matter how much pay/DH is there, or how many duty periods. Your min protected pay for that trip is 15:45.
5:15 per calendar day has to do with pay for a trip. If you have a 3-day trip, it doesn't matter how much pay/DH is there, or how many duty periods. Your min protected pay for that trip is 15:45.
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