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Old 03-25-2015 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
I feel I make decent money here. $91k my second year on the 767, actually ($101k if you count per diem).
Would you be willing to give a break down of this? If I use the numbers on the APC pay scale page I'm looking at $60k 2nd year pay 767 before per diem. Am I missing something?
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Old 03-25-2015 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Galaxydriver
Do the pilots at Atlas a favor and at least call HR back and tell them you are no longer interested because you just started a new job. It will help make the point that retaining people is important because they aren't the only ones hiring anymore.
That would be primary.

A secondary collateral point could be to get their administrative poop in a ground and don't screw with people. If they want to hire them, don't string them along between online test and phone screen, then to F2F invite, THEN if selected, to class date.

JB has a similar problem. Dude passes phase 1, gets the notice he's in phase 2, then waits for MONTHS for a class date. Meanwhile, taking a job elsewhere. When they could have gone to EITHER company, it was simply a matter of "who called first" to offer a class date.
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Old 03-25-2015 | 02:05 PM
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How often does everyone recommend you send in your updated application?

I received one auto email notification from Atlas the first time saying to send it in every 3-6 months but I never got that again. Does anyone update it sooner or is 3 month the standard?
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Old 03-25-2015 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by watertwatter
Would you be willing to give a break down of this? If I use the numbers on the APC pay scale page I'm looking at $60k 2nd year pay 767 before per diem. Am I missing something?
Using a 62 hour min guarantee, that's probably about right. But, I can't remember the last time I made guarantee. Most months are in the 72-75 hour range by default, at least in CVG. Remember, you're paid 4.85 hours for each 24 hours you're on the road. If you're out longer than 13 days, you'll break guarantee.

Beyond that, I picked up OT pretty aggressively last summer. I certainly didn't subject myself to being gone all month like some of my comrades, but a 7 day OT trip pays as much as a full month's regular pay (69.95 hours)... It adds up, and shows us that the company could easily pay us more for what we do.
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Old 03-25-2015 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by watertwatter
Would you be willing to give a break down of this? If I use the numbers on the APC pay scale page I'm looking at $60k 2nd year pay 767 before per diem. Am I missing something?
Pay on the 767 is strictly a function of how many days you're away from base, and there are many factors that go into that. I made $89k in my third year (not counting per diem), but I typically favor shorter trips and usually conflict bid training and vacations, although i did fly a few OT trips. A friend who flies OT when he can made more than $20k more than I did. Depends on your base, depends on your seniority, depends on if Scheduling blows up your trip or not. But the easy math is 4.85 hrs/credit every day you fly. Last time I checked, I think I was averaging 72 hours/credit per month. YMMV.
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Old 03-25-2015 | 03:26 PM
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Can any one give a gouge on the face to face interview? I know there are lots out there just hoping someone has some other things to add.....any help is appreciated!
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Old 03-25-2015 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wingedmunkie
Is that for just himself or does that cover spouse and family too?
He his wife and child
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Old 03-25-2015 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Galaxydriver
Do the pilots at Atlas a favor and at least call HR back and tell them you are no longer interested because you just started a new job. It will help make the point that retaining people is important because they aren't the only ones hiring anymore.
I plan to. I was traveling today but will return the call tomorrow.
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Old 03-25-2015 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 742Dash
It is a messed up system, but the end result is 2 years of loss of license at 60% pay, an optional 3rd year that is pretty cheap to buy and sick leave that accumulates at 3 days/month. Long term sick leave is not capped.

Note that the first 24 days of sick leave are at full pay, while the rest is at 50%.

And a note to newhires -- sign up for that third year right out of the box. Getting it later involves getting a medical exam and approval is not guaranteed.

Thank you for providing the info, 742


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Old 03-25-2015 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
Using a 62 hour min guarantee, that's probably about right. But, I can't remember the last time I made guarantee. Most months are in the 72-75 hour range by default, at least in CVG. Remember, you're paid 4.85 hours for each 24 hours you're on the road. If you're out longer than 13 days, you'll break guarantee.

Beyond that, I picked up OT pretty aggressively last summer. I certainly didn't subject myself to being gone all month like some of my comrades, but a 7 day OT trip pays as much as a full month's regular pay (69.95 hours)... It adds up, and shows us that the company could easily pay us more for what we do.
Ok thanks! That makes sense. Are you always paid by the trip rig or only when your block hours are less than min guarantee?

How are OT trips calculated?
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