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Old 12-26-2012 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by twoshadesblue
Is this under the old contract ?
About half of it was. The new contract didn't make a big difference in my case, I was crediting about 75 hours per month either way once I hit the line. The pay rate was, of course, the same.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by S1tpilot
While first year pay is better than most, the three months waiting for OE at $1600.00 month and no per diem can be a bit tight.
I'm trying to make sense of this. 3 months of $1600 per with no per diem? I thought there is per diem while in training? Or according to this, am I mistaken?
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Old 12-27-2012 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TransAm
I'm trying to make sense of this. 3 months of $1600 per with no per diem? I thought there is per diem while in training? Or according to this, am I mistaken?
You get per diem while in training. You only get training pay if, after training, you sit at home for months waiting for OE to begin. And you get off training pay after 4 months or by completing OE.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 03:55 AM
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and of course...no per diem.. if you are just sitting home waiting to go out on OE.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 04:01 AM
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Curious about training schedule. About 8 weeks?? Any days off?
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Old 12-27-2012 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cloudsmoker
Curious about training schedule. About 8 weeks?? Any days off?
Yes, very good question. What is the schedule like for tgose starting in jan 7.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 05:48 AM
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Weeks 1-3 (Indoc, and Systems Ground School) are scheduled for 6 days per week.

Beyond that, the schedule varies based on (Electronic, or Fixed-base) training device availability, but most of the time, it is about 3 days of training, and a day off, and repeat.

After the fixed-trainer, you are scheduled for an FAA Oral (if you need a type-rating) and a company PC Oral (if you already have one on your airplane assignment).

Full-flight simulator training is again based on availability and instructor schedules...but basically the same as the fixed trainer schedules.

Then, an FAA Type Rating check, or a company PC...followed by LOFT, CAT II, CAT III landings period, and several days of ground school for pre-OE material.

All told, approximate 7-8 weeks in Miami (on Training pay, and per diem)...
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Old 12-27-2012 | 07:17 AM
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I started July 23rd of this year. I was done with training on September 23rd. I went home 3 times during training and my wife cme to Miami once. When I got home I had 2 weeks off before OE. I did a 15 day OE trip and finished everything on that trip. Some guys in my class are just finishing OE this week. It just depends on how scheduling fits everyone in.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 08:02 AM
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I went home once during training, on a 3-day break that was supposed to be after the Oral, but at the last minute was switched to just prior to my Oral. Going home depends heavily on how easy it is to Jumpseat home (mine was easy with tons of flights). West Coast guys in my class never left.

I remember a 747 class had 8 days off over thanksgiving, I ended up with one day off. As with all things Atlas, just because your schedule says you have days off doesn't mean you will, especially if you're in the sim portion of training. Especially on the 767, your sim schedule will change early/often. The only constant is constant change!
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Old 12-27-2012 | 08:36 AM
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It wasn't too bad being a west coast guy that never went home. It prepared my wife for life with Atlas. She said after having me gone for the full 2 months, 17 days on a normal trip is a breeze!!
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