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Old 01-07-2017, 08:37 PM
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Packrat-1989 doesnt seem like that long ago. I do remember. How do you feel Bezo will make it materialize???
The aforementioned contractors will handle the freight until the critical mass is achieved then Amazon will break away as an independent airline. Think Ryan.

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Yeah, and where does Omni fit in? Atlas and ATSG are the only Amazon contractors that I know of.
Nowhere, except to provide 767 qualified pilots.
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:44 PM
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Any validity to Atlas selling the Florida West cert to Bezos???
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:42 PM
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Ask, the Interstate, ICX and ATI guys how it worked out with them at UPS. Don't forget Challenge Air Cargo either. If, A big if, Amazon goes on it's own, they will pick whom they want no matter whom you work for. I also assume they will want no union on the property nor union people. I do not see it happening as they will have to pay top dollar vs. keep the fighting amongst the contractors.

Go read all about the regionals and the whipsawing. Airline bidness 101. That Amazon guy is ruthless.
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 View Post
Ask, the Interstate, ICX and ATI guys how it worked out with them at UPS. Don't forget Challenge Air Cargo either. If, A big if, Amazon goes on it's own, they will pick whom they want no matter whom you work for. I also assume they will want no union on the property nor union people. I do not see it happening as they will have to pay top dollar vs. keep the fighting amongst the contractors.

Go read all about the regionals and the whipsawing. Airline bidness 101. That Amazon guy is ruthless.
spot on. they will want nothing to do with anything union.
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Old 01-09-2017, 06:10 AM
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The latest news from the Union.

Fellow Omni Pilots,

Last week, we sent you an important negotiation’s update. If you haven’t read it yet, it’s available here. In that update, we discussed the company’s posturing at the bargaining table, reviewed the ultimatum it made on compensation, and explained why rejecting it was the right move for this pilot group. We have received overwhelmingly positive feedback from you.

Last Wednesday, when it became clear that the pilot group would not turn on itself, the company contacted the union and confirmed that it was terminating direct negotiations over the new collective bargaining agreement. It has now unequivocally walked away from the bargaining table.

The company’s decision is, to say the least, a disappointment. We made progress together on non-economic issues, and the union has bent over backwards to work with the company through the economic portion of negotiations. But it takes two to tango, and the company has simply been unwilling to engage in meaningful bargaining over your compensation and benefits.

What this means going forward is uncertainty and delay. Under the Railway Labor Act, the termination of bargaining results in a 10-day waiting period, set to expire on Friday.

The company might file for mediation by that deadline by making a request to a federal agency named the National Mediation Board. Doing so will begin a process that the company describes as “tedious mediated bargaining stretching over several years.” The company has inferred that it will take this approach.

On the other hand, the company might choose not to file for mediation before the deadline. Doing so would release both parties from their obligation to maintain the status quo. This would allow the company to unilaterally impose a substandard contract on the pilot group, at which point, we, the pilots, would go on strike.

It’s shameful that the company has introduced this uncertainty into our lives, when good faith, direct bargaining provided a clear pathway to a quick and mutually-beneficial CBA.

Although the company’s “take it or leave it” brinksmanship has brought us to this point, we are prepared to confront this next stage. We are building on the foundation of a pilot group that is already united and is only beginning to realize its strength. Look for more information later this week.

Fraternally,

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Old 01-09-2017, 08:21 AM
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Ten of us. Don't know which A/C yet. Training material to be mailed shortly
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by M20F View Post
Ten of us. Don't know which A/C yet. Training material to be mailed shortly
Statistical data from the last year of new hire training at Omni. 7 out of your 10 will get through new hire training if the standard stays in the gutter like it has. The training is good, but to accommodate the experience level of those hired. The standards have gone bye bye to achieve that 70% pass rate.
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Old 01-09-2017, 12:29 PM
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I'm in class now, you'll be fine, just know that material!
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Old 01-09-2017, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolloutflare View Post
Statistical data from the last year of new hire training at Omni. 7 out of your 10 will get through new hire training if the standard stays in the gutter like it has. The training is good, but to accommodate the experience level of those hired. The standards have gone bye bye to achieve that 70% pass rate.
That's the stats for either the combination of both fleets or just the 767 fleet. 777 failure is higher then that and the check airman are passing anyone that makes it out of training.
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:33 AM
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I'm in class now, you'll be fine, just know that material!
Never failed a class, rating or ride. Don't intend on starting now.
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