full of luv

It would also draw away some of the senior Florida pilots that now commute to the “northern” bases so hard to say what specific effect any one base would experience.

DALMD88FO

It’s not necessarily going to be just Florida guys jumping on it. Don’t you get positive space and hotels in a VB. I would imagine that would be attractive to any pilot that is currently commuting.

qball

I don’t think so

Denny Crane

I think he's got a point. If I was a DFW-ATL commuter I'd seriously consider it for exactly why he said.

Denny

DLpilot

You are probably right.

They will get positive space and a hotel room on the night prior to a rotation as needed. MOU #16-03 gives all the guidance.

TSioux55

Kill virtual bases now!!

weekendflyer

Commuters on reserve will be all over this. Just think about it, positive space to and from work, oh and a hotel on the companies dime....paying 300 bucks a month for a crashpad in kew gardens with 15 dudes in it will become a thing of the past!

Scoop

I agree with you but does that mean that there is value in it? It kills a few jobs but can provide a serious QOL improvement to commuters.

Not talking to you specifically but many are up in arms about VBs but no one seems to care about guys blocking 90+ hours by circumventing the pick up limits. I view both of these issues as pretty much the same - in fact the block issue is worse in my opinion.

They are both very important to the guys who choose to partake, but both kill jobs. I hear guys say a strict cap would decrease flexibility - well tell that to the DFW commuter who gets a hotel and positive space to work in MCO if VBs are canceled.

Plenty of potential danger in VBs - if we as a union are stupid, so plenty of danger.

The company will surely try to "tweak" VBs in future contract but we simply keep the unilateral "pull down" provision. If the company ever, and I mean ever tries to end the pull down provision then we end it.

Scoop

easternguy

I could see these VB's benefiting local guys, it's ashame only a few local senior guys will be able to take advantage of it. My guess is that the vast majority of VB bidders will be commuters looking for the positive space and hotel stuff.

I can't remember the specifics, but can either side shut it down? I'm guessing the company won't realize any cost advantages when the deadheads and hotel rooms start adding up.

Han Solo

Until after 2 months the company closes the VB and now you are in a rat hole or waiting list for an acceptable pad.

VBs are short term gratification for a minority of the pilot group at the long term expense for the majority of the group. At least the company wins, right?