sailingfun

A merger with 9E would invoke ALPA merger policy. I posted that policy a few days ago. It’s highly unlikely that would be a staple. The arbitrator is required to consider status and longevity as two of the factors. Arbitration is always a crapshoot.

Nantonaku

No doubt, Delta pilots would get the raw end of the deal with some kind of stovetype solution.

OOfff

i wonder if it’s possible disagree with him/her without being an egotistical jerk.

tennisguru

I'm curious about the demographics of the 9E seniority list. How many pilots are there that are over 10 years seniority? 200? What about more than 5 years? Anyone over 10 years is a lifer by design or by accident, so whatever small number that is I could see being integrated somewhere in the DL list above the level of staple. Those guys are all mostly in their 50's or higher most likely so they'd still retire out well ahead of most anyone else at DL who is in the bottom 25%. I'd also guess that the vast majority of the under 5 year pilots are also under 30, definitely 35, so to get stapled at the bottom of Delta at say, 28 years old is still an unbelievable opportunity. I know we've hired people in their 20's but that's still a small percentage. There are going to be outliers of course (say a 40 year old who has been there 15 years and I'm sure 9E has hired a number of guys 40+ in the last couple of years), but overall I'd think if this ever were to happen you'd have some small percentage (10-15?) integrated with the DL list while the rest would be stapled. And with fences which would lessen any pain on both sides.

JamesBond

/argument...

Gone Flying

Sometimes you reap what you sow.

Gone Flying

haven’t all those lifers at 9E already been offered an interview at DL and either failed or turned it down?

I could see this argument with an FFD regional that did not previously have a guaranteed interview at DL (like republic) but for years the top of the endeavor list has been able to interview at DL in seniority order.

I think a fence on some RJ CA positions would be much more reasonable.

if endeavor is merged with DL they would bring their longevity, which would be a huge win in and of itself for all 9E pilots, which is why it won’t happen.

To add to this; I think DL will fight tooth and nail to prevent a merger. Even if, by some miracle, we are able to bring the 76 seaters back in house; I think DL will still flow endeavor pilots over to DL so they don’t bring their longevity with them.

sailingfun

The simple fact is Delta management will never allow a merger of 9E with the mainline. They do not believe the aircraft can be operated at a competitive cost structure to other RJ airlines at the mainline. If they are correct the jets and feed they provide goes away. Delta already operates smaller airframes at the mainline than American, United and SWA believe is cost effective. If Delta even gets a hint they might be forced into a merger they will divest themselves of 9E via a sale, merger or even shutdown.

OOfff

while we’re throwing out wisdom, “two wrongs don’t make a right.” And “treat others how you’d like to be treated.”

Mesabah

IF management staples Endeavor it would be to gain access to more RJ's, there wouldn't be a scope recapture. Since the CRJ's aren't being made anymore, if management could find a way to reset our longevity, they would staple us in a heartbeat. This would give them access to 100+ new E175's, while the CRJ's time out.