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#5531
Sure there’s a few outlier weirdos that are more passionate about that than they should be.
But I doubt there’s more than a handful of people that SJS would affect how they vote on a contract. You’d really turn down a raise or QOL improvements (or add concessions) over the opportunity to fly a random airliner? Who gives a ****
Besides, the company is going to buy what it’s going to buy anyway.
But I doubt there’s more than a handful of people that SJS would affect how they vote on a contract. You’d really turn down a raise or QOL improvements (or add concessions) over the opportunity to fly a random airliner? Who gives a ****
Besides, the company is going to buy what it’s going to buy anyway.
Lol sorry that was a little poke at the diehards and I wouldn't be shocked that a few would do that. I'm in agreement with you that it wouldn't be a meaningful number. We've already saw that in action when they threatened to cancel the 737 order if we didn't vote yes. We said no and they still bought the 737s, but said it was different deal to save face. Im with you, I couldn't care less what I fly, as long as the pay/benefits are there. An airliner is an airliner, they're all mostly boring.
#5532
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Sure. Replacing old jets with new higher paying ones is good for us.
Why that fact (which is also outside our control), would affect anyone’s decision making on contracts is something I do not understand.
And, again, the company will buy what it wants to buy regardless of what we do. So I don’t really understand the devil’s advocate’s position.
Why that fact (which is also outside our control), would affect anyone’s decision making on contracts is something I do not understand.
And, again, the company will buy what it wants to buy regardless of what we do. So I don’t really understand the devil’s advocate’s position.
How about the pay rate for the 350-1k?
In the contract comparison document that DALPA recently put out, there is a very obvious "TBD" next to the pay rates for the 350-1k.
#5533
Sure. Replacing old jets with new higher paying ones is good for us.
Why that fact (which is also outside our control), would affect anyone’s decision making on contracts is something I do not understand.
And, again, the company will buy what it wants to buy regardless of what we do. So I don’t really understand the devil’s advocate’s position.
Why that fact (which is also outside our control), would affect anyone’s decision making on contracts is something I do not understand.
And, again, the company will buy what it wants to buy regardless of what we do. So I don’t really understand the devil’s advocate’s position.
Don't mind me, I just woke up on the "I wanna argue on APC' side of the bed
#5534
I'm guessing you don't read the Weekly/Monthly updates because they're all Koolaid?
#5535
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Posted numerous times over on the latest and greatest thread. Managements marching orders are to run it lean for the foreseeable future. Of course new management that can all turn on a dime
#5536
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The fleet is expected to grow in 2026 - getting a solid bump of A220’s for 26’ in fact. Of course, if the 7M10 gets and/or the A321 seats get certified logic points towards hiring going crazy.. especially for the 7M10.
A hefty 787 or top off 350/330 order expected EOY + 20 35K’s & another 20 options to be considered going into late 26’ will affect things too.
A hefty 787 or top off 350/330 order expected EOY + 20 35K’s & another 20 options to be considered going into late 26’ will affect things too.
#5537
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No A35K is replacing a 767. 35K’s will release 359’s for more growth. The 764’s are not retiring anytime soon.
7M10 expected to be certified in 2026. When it does, Delta has proven it can ramp up hiring instantly to meet needs. There will be a ton of growth here.
If you think they’re going to retire a 757 for every A321N that arrives then you’re correct - but they won’t. The 757’s will last into mid 2030’s.
Airbus has been able to double the production capacity of the 220. This fleet is pure growth until 717’s are parked (no time soon).
The 20 options would be pure growth - which is was the original 20 35K’s are.. pure growth. The 35K will also return DL to Singapore, India, middle-east, etc. and increasing capacity on SYD, JNB, ICN, LHR.. allowing a lot of 359’s to deployed elsewhere when those come.
A 50-60 787-10 order plus option will replace the 763’s and options for growth. This will cause massive growth in the WB paying fleet + capacity increase. Similar to how much of UA’s 787 order is majority replacement - as 2026 is the last year until United begins to retire the 767’s and older 777’s.
7M10 expected to be certified in 2026. When it does, Delta has proven it can ramp up hiring instantly to meet needs. There will be a ton of growth here.
If you think they’re going to retire a 757 for every A321N that arrives then you’re correct - but they won’t. The 757’s will last into mid 2030’s.
Airbus has been able to double the production capacity of the 220. This fleet is pure growth until 717’s are parked (no time soon).
The 20 options would be pure growth - which is was the original 20 35K’s are.. pure growth. The 35K will also return DL to Singapore, India, middle-east, etc. and increasing capacity on SYD, JNB, ICN, LHR.. allowing a lot of 359’s to deployed elsewhere when those come.
A 50-60 787-10 order plus option will replace the 763’s and options for growth. This will cause massive growth in the WB paying fleet + capacity increase. Similar to how much of UA’s 787 order is majority replacement - as 2026 is the last year until United begins to retire the 767’s and older 777’s.
#5538
What does RG have to do with a podcast about fleet strategy? And how is listening to the podcast drinking Koolaid? It's just information that is probably more accurate than anything you'll read here.
I'm guessing you don't read the Weekly/Monthly updates because they're all Koolaid?
I'm guessing you don't read the Weekly/Monthly updates because they're all Koolaid?
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