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Old 08-17-2022, 04:44 PM
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Thanks! Would anyone mind posting the results when they come out?
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Old 08-17-2022, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15 View Post
Correction, it was NYC only, and I highly doubt we will ever see it again.




Ask again in a week. Seriously. There is a vacancy bid that literally closes in the morning, with results in 2-5 days. That bid will give a much better indication of what to reasonably expect as we fully recover from some Covid craziness. Even then, I suspect there will be some outliers.

Point of order…

7ER is still going to ATL…767-300s are WB even many here disagree
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:29 PM
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Point of order…

7ER is still going to ATL…767-300s are WB even many here disagree
I get what you are saying, it’s the age old debate here... in the sense of “WB going to NH” (an anomaly, and I think also the question really asked), they aren’t. Also, the 7ER (757/767-300 ‘classic’ category for those unaware) pays like a NB. And when folks talk about WB slots on a bid, they aren’t talking about the 7ER category.

The nuance is lost on most folks new to Delta, but I submit most folks (including applicants) don’t consider the 7ER to be a true WB, even though you are correct that the 767-300 technically is one.
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15 View Post
I get what you are saying, it’s the age old debate here... in the sense of “WB going to NH” (an anomaly, and I think also the question really asked), they aren’t. Also, the 7ER (757/767-300 ‘classic’ category) pays like a NB. And when folks talk about WB slots on a bid, they aren’t talking about the 7ER category.

The nuance is lost on most folks new to Delta, but I submit most folks (including applicants) don’t consider the 7ER to be a true WB, even though you are correct that the 767 technically is one.

It pays like a NB because we have increased NB pay to it’s level. An old hat can correct me, but when they combined and created the ER category instead of having intl separate, we got them to increase the 757 pay to match the 767 (a pure WB category) at the time.

Maybe some don’t consider it a WB category, but there is plenty of WB flying on it…especially in NYC. And if that’s what a new hire desires, then considering it for that kind of flying is valid and is exactly what they are talking about.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:03 PM
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Hi folks!

This seems like a pretty general thread for new hire questions so I'm gonna ask this here. (Let me know if there's a better spot.) How realistic is it, generally, to drop trips? I assume its not very feasible currently, but over the course of a full career, how easy and often is it possible? For context I'm currently deciding between AA and DL, and I'm trying to figure out which airline will let me stay home the most. It's not the biggest thing, but it's pretty big on my decision making matrix. I'm 33 and live in NYC.

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Old 08-17-2022, 08:01 PM
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There is basically no movement on the 220, everyone is really happy. Except for the slow movement, relative to the 737 and 320, not to historical norms.


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Hi folks!

This seems like a pretty general thread for new hire questions so I'm gonna ask this here. (Let me know if there's a better spot.) How realistic is it, generally, to drop trips? I assume its not very feasible currently, but over the course of a full career, how easy and often is it possible? For context I'm currently deciding between AA and DL, and I'm trying to figure out which airline will let me stay home the most. It's not the biggest thing, but it's pretty big on my decision making matrix. I'm 33 and live in NYC.

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if you get 220 you will be able to drop every trip and day of reserve, currently. You can also camp on long call, cash a check, and be confident that with other peoples blanket green, white, and yellow slips you will never fly
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Old 08-17-2022, 09:04 PM
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There is basically no movement on the 220, everyone is really happy. Except for the slow movement, relative to the 737 and 320, not to historical norms.



if you get 220 you will be able to drop every trip and day of reserve, currently. You can also camp on long call, cash a check, and be confident that with other peoples blanket green, white, and yellow slips you will never fly
Fascinating. Why is the 220 different from the rest like that? Is it full of people that wanna stay put instead of upgrading or going WB? People that never wanna go to JFK? Whats going on there? I assumed it would be the fastest moving seat in NYC!
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Old 08-17-2022, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brambleshire View Post
Fascinating. Why is the 220 different from the rest like that? Is it full of people that wanna stay put instead of upgrading or going WB? People that never wanna go to JFK? Whats going on there? I assumed it would be the fastest moving seat in NYC!
yes well as it turns out you weren’t the only person to make that assumption.
In reality though, in the May AE only 17 people left the fleet companywide

I would hazard a guess that some people who intended to bid off found the plane comfortable and great to fly, there are no red eyes, and we don’t touch Atlanta so there are comparably less reroutes. It’s a decent gig.

So maybe that’s what got the ball rolling, but now the big draw is likely that we’re the only fleet that is properly staffed, probably even over staffed. So every single day is blue on reserve coverage, sometimes by 40 people
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Old 08-18-2022, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424 View Post
It pays like a NB because we have increased NB pay to it’s level. An old hat can correct me, but when they combined and created the ER category instead of having intl separate, we got them to increase the 757 pay to match the 767 (a pure WB category) at the time.

Maybe some don’t consider it a WB category, but there is plenty of WB flying on it…especially in NYC. And if that’s what a new hire desires, then considering it for that kind of flying is valid and is exactly what they are talking about.
We can agree the ER can be sort of a grey area. Now, the type of flying it does varies wildly between bases as I am told. I hear ER in NYC is the best with plenty of intl flying. That being said, I've heard the ER in ATL being called the heavy RJ because all you do is 4 leg days to FL and back.
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Old 08-18-2022, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdub2 View Post
yes well as it turns out you weren’t the only person to make that assumption.
In reality though, in the May AE only 17 people left the fleet companywide

I would hazard a guess that some people who intended to bid off found the plane comfortable and great to fly, there are no red eyes, and we don’t touch Atlanta so there are comparably less reroutes. It’s a decent gig.

So maybe that’s what got the ball rolling, but now the big draw is likely that we’re the only fleet that is properly staffed, probably even over staffed. So every single day is blue on reserve coverage, sometimes by 40 people
Point of order. There are at least two daily red eyes out of SEA . Fairbanks goes very senior though. Cincinnati not so much.
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