DL Hiring: New Process
#52
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,191
I agree with you....and......not to make this a military/civilian thing, but......”shack”!
Might I also add that we are our own worst enemy. As over achievers, we showed up fully prepared for training. The instructors had to show they knew more so that raised the bar.....consequently, over multiple iterations we got to questions like...”How many ridges on the trim button?” in the never ending game of stump the dummy. It became unruly. I can’t even remember the last time any type of oral question was asked during CQ....or might I add....very little during IQ with the “new” training. Overall...the new way is not only easier(admittedly) but, more importantly...more rational, logical, and real world....I’ll say it again....we aren’t being hired to be “test pilots”
Last edited by Buck Rogers; 07-08-2021 at 10:38 AM.
#54
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: B737 CA
Posts: 1,518
A call to excellence is one thing; perhaps that's the spirit in which the sign was intended, and that's the way I've chosen to take it, because the alternative is frankly embarrassing. Taken literally, the sign says DL pilots (or maybe just NYC-based DL pilots) *are* the best airline pilots (it formerly said the best pilots, period) and infers that all others are inferior. That smacks of the sort of hubris most experienced pilots try to avoid, the sort of pride that goeth before the fall.
#55
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 309
Striving to be the best is great. Thinking you already are - well, that's when a guy needs to be reminded to never stop learning...
#56
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,066
“You gonna pay me for that”?
I agree with you....and......not to make this a military/civilian thing, but......”shack”!
Might I also add that we are our own worst enemy. As over achievers, we showed up fully prepared for training. The instructors had to show they knew more so that raised the bar.....consequently, over multiple iterations we got to questions like...”How many ridges on the trim button?” in the never ending game of stump the dummy. It became unruly. I can’t even remember the last time any type of oral question was asked during CQ....or might I add....very little during IQ with the “new” training. Overall...the new way is not only easier(admittedly) but, more importantly...more rational, logical, and real world....I’ll say it again....we aren’t being hired to be “test pilots”
I agree with you....and......not to make this a military/civilian thing, but......”shack”!
Might I also add that we are our own worst enemy. As over achievers, we showed up fully prepared for training. The instructors had to show they knew more so that raised the bar.....consequently, over multiple iterations we got to questions like...”How many ridges on the trim button?” in the never ending game of stump the dummy. It became unruly. I can’t even remember the last time any type of oral question was asked during CQ....or might I add....very little during IQ with the “new” training. Overall...the new way is not only easier(admittedly) but, more importantly...more rational, logical, and real world....I’ll say it again....we aren’t being hired to be “test pilots”
#58
Totally agree…except the Vol. 2 is terrible. Absolutely zero deep-dives into the systems. A more detailed Vol. 2 would go a long way for those of us who want more systems knowledge.
#59
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Joined APC: May 2021
Posts: 97
“You gonna pay me for that”?
I agree with you....and......not to make this a military/civilian thing, but......”shack”!
Might I also add that we are our own worst enemy. As over achievers, we showed up fully prepared for training. The instructors had to show they knew more so that raised the bar.....consequently, over multiple iterations we got to questions like...”How many ridges on the trim button?” in the never ending game of stump the dummy. It became unruly. I can’t even remember the last time any type of oral question was asked during CQ....or might I add....very little during IQ with the “new” training. Overall...the new way is not only easier(admittedly) but, more importantly...more rational, logical, and real world....I’ll say it again....we aren’t being hired to be “test pilots”
I agree with you....and......not to make this a military/civilian thing, but......”shack”!
Might I also add that we are our own worst enemy. As over achievers, we showed up fully prepared for training. The instructors had to show they knew more so that raised the bar.....consequently, over multiple iterations we got to questions like...”How many ridges on the trim button?” in the never ending game of stump the dummy. It became unruly. I can’t even remember the last time any type of oral question was asked during CQ....or might I add....very little during IQ with the “new” training. Overall...the new way is not only easier(admittedly) but, more importantly...more rational, logical, and real world....I’ll say it again....we aren’t being hired to be “test pilots”
#60
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,417
Did UPT. And I did civilian CFI before the military equivalency test was available. UPT was way harder but for a lot of different reasons - one year long, evaluated every minute even when off duty, little chance for do overs, volume of information etc. But the CFI oral and check ride were actually hard too. CFI you could take as long as you wanted or needed to prepare and if you fail just do it again. No limit on do overs.
Wrt your comment on “no limit on do overs” while you definitely can legally, it will be a huge black mark if you need to re take it more than once or (maybe) twice
Last edited by Gone Flying; 07-08-2021 at 12:49 PM.
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