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Pineapple Guy 02-24-2013 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1359036)
Hilarious! I underlined the word "idea" in my post just to be sure nobody could miss it. Then you quote my post. And I'm the one with the reading comprehension problem? Too funny. Here's my post again for you to re-read...since you didn't the first time:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
The far more interesting point is how the usual ALPA defenders (padre2992 being the latest example), quickly jumped to defending the idea of an unlicensed lawyer giving us legal advice. Then he attacked Bar for questioning why ALPA would take such advice.

Carl, let me try one more time. I've highlighted your false statement. Please show me ANY post where I defended the idea of an unlicensed lawyer giving us legal advice. All I did was point out yet another APC allegation from the usual ALPA bashers that turns out to be a lie.


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1359036)
This is the problem with some of the ALPAoids. The first thought is to defend the empire at all costs, rather than stopping and thinking about the wisdom of the status quo. What would you and padre have said if it came to light that DPA was taking legal advice from an unlicensed lawyer? Would your first thought be to defend that concept?

Carl

And this is the problem with some of the ALPA haters. The first thought is to change the subject, cloud the issue, and let the lie that was previously posted go uncorrected. It says volumes about character.

forgot to bid 02-24-2013 04:22 AM

So maybe after this AE and ATL 767 closes we should rename 7ER and 765 to 767 and 764?

Pineapple Guy 02-24-2013 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1359028)
The law license thing was off the mark. Bucking Bar corrected the record in large font.

I get it now. Apparently, in your world, it's OK to yell FIRE in a crowded theater, so long as you then say "Oh, nevermind...." once everyone is standing outside. Thanks for the clarification.

Check Essential 02-24-2013 04:27 AM

Pole sitter.


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zoomiezombie 02-24-2013 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1358960)
I'm genuinely sorry that taking pot shots from guys like me is part of the deal.

I don't understand this sentence. It seems to conflict with itself. If you're really sorry that these guys take pot shots then why do you deliver them? Why don't you handle your concerns in ways other than pot shots?


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1358960)
I am much too humble to ever criticize individuals (most of whom are a lot smarter than I), the issues are what matters.

You have called out an ALPA attorney by name numerous times and (in your haste to discredit him) inaccurately attacked his professional credentials.
And yet you say you are "too humble to criticize individuals". I am having a really hard time figuring out how your behavior can coexist with this pious rhetoric.

dalad 02-24-2013 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1359132)
So maybe after this AE and ATL 767 closes we should rename 7ER and 765 to 767 and 764?

To further muddy the waters the 744 is also known as the 4x4 and the 764 as the 2x4.

Check Essential 02-24-2013 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1359133)
I get it now. Apparently, in your world, it's OK to yell FIRE in a crowded theater, so long as you then say "Oh, nevermind...." once everyone is standing outside. Thanks for the clarification.

The lawyer in question is trying to set fire to our scope clause.

I'm glad Bar is yelling. Somebody needs to.

Pineapple Guy 02-24-2013 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1359145)
The lawyer in question is trying to set fire to our scope clause.

I'm glad Bar is yelling. Somebody needs to.

Nope. BB has preached this story for all to hear, at every level, and at every opportunity. And with the exception of the half dozen or so ALPA haters on this board, he's failed to convert anyone. I know it's impossible for you to contemplate, but could it be that he is simply wrong in his assertions?

Free Bird 02-24-2013 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1359134)

It'll be a good day for her if she finishes on the lead lap and I don't think the chances of that are very good. She had a big mistake yesterday that was overshadowed by the last lap wreck.

Bucking Bar 02-24-2013 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1359129)
Carl, let me try one more time. I've highlighted your false statement. Please show me ANY post where I defended the idea of an unlicensed lawyer giving us legal advice. All I did was point out yet another APC allegation from the usual ALPA bashers that turns out to be a lie.

And this is the problem with some of the ALPA haters. The first thought is to change the subject, cloud the issue, and let the lie that was previously posted go uncorrected. It says volumes about character.

PG,

I do not consider myself to be an "ALPA basher" or "ALPA hater." I've read all I can find on Dave Behnke and our Key Men. I believe that they would have similar concerns to the ideas expressed on alter ego airlines and outsourcing.

If I "hated" ALPA it would be easy enough to leave the association then raise the issues of dues apportionment, or advocate for an alternative representation solution. That is not where this is going.

98% of what our union does is very good work and they do an excellent job.

It might surprise you to learn who my source was on the attorney not being a member of the Bar was ... the attorney himself! A mistake which I hastened to correct. Aside from that I am a former ALPA volunteer, and voting dues paying member in good standing.


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