I'm going to print this and let me kids color it.

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I have been thinking about this this afternoon, and I have a reply for you, and I am interested in your take and those that like the productivity argument.

See here's the thing. We have 34 of the biggest most productive airplanes, and only 11,000 pilots. The number of pilots that get to enjoy the benefit of that productivity is relatively small, and they will be there for a relatively small amount of time as well. Why should the entire group GAS about a payscale that benefits relatively few, and (I might add) to the detriment of one's career earnings? In the days of a DB plan, it was cool if you wanted to be senior on the DC9 until your last 3 years and suck it up to fly the L1011. Doesn't work that way any more. TVM is very real, and the "productivity" argument completely disregards that concept. It is a huge fail. And as an added bonus, in order to make the biggest bucks possible throughout one's career, you have to sacrifice your QOL. Period. No way around that whatsoever.

The plan is to keep the 4 1400 series airframes and convert 3 ER's to domestic configuration for a total of 7 airframes. The rest of the flying will be covered with the smaller airframes.

We do own one end of that route. But our government is only slightly less corrupt and slightly less incompetent than that of North Korea. The sand fleas and their governments will be filling Marco Rubio, and Harry Reid's wallet with way more money than the PACs or A4A can possibly muster. Don't get me wrong, we need to keep fighting the fight, but have no illusions that guys like Rubio are in our corner.

I'm not calling you a liar T. I know that's what's being said... It just doesn't make sense unless its just part of an overall upgauge, and not the top part!

Oh please acl, you guys are too scared to even file a grievance. You, like Donatelli, just don't get it. I don't expect you too as you are part of the problem.

Well said, PD. Well said.

Heard some of the Eagle union guys contacted your management looking to make a deal. AAG was threatening to Comair II the Eagle guys; heard they went to Delta MGT and offered all 2700 pilots to staff Endeavor. They just wanted some type of seniority/longevity transfer, or a preferntial hiring program with Delta. Rumor is the Endeavor MGT asked their pilot union about it. Any of you guys have any info on that? Also heard that Donatelli told the Eagle guys that your contract requires 35% of each class to come from ALPA carriers. Is that true also?

It would be a great way to wipe out 60% of AA feed overnight if they really are working on it.

That's a great letter from Jeff Miller's office. I'd vote for that dude. I always jump on the Calls to Action but I've never gotten a response that looked anything like that one.

You mean write rhetoric over a year and half from the amendable date that as no hope of action in a timeframe that would be acceptable to pilots? If you want words of like that, the pilot group needs to be behind the make that makes em. Wouldn't that sort of language just give the company an excuse not to negotiate or talk to us? Wouldn't that just be convenient when they are making billions?

Getting mad and hitting an easy button and seeking an "alternate path" feels good but does nothing to move the needle for the Delta Pilots.