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Originally Posted by beer (Post 713680)

Well..I am already getting calls from friends about Delta hiring. Here's a question. I have a friend who got a pink from NetJets. She will be F'd in January. Will she have to give up recall rights if hired at Delta? I personally told her, who cares, give em up!!

Last time around Delta hired, early in basic indoc eveyone had to sign a letter to their former employers giving up any recall rights or any ability to retain a flying job at another company. I'd guess it would be the same this time.

The military folks did not have to give up any rights to fly in the reserves, of course.

Hiring website changed again

Delta - Pilot Basics

Better reflects the first page. Removed all the aircraft references.

Has anyone bumped into BB recently?
I wonder if he has been "activated". He has some other job within the company now doesn't he?

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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 713765)

Has anyone bumped into BB recently?
I wonder if he has been "activated". He has some other job within the company now doesn't he?

Last I heard he was working on SOC stuff for the NWA guys. It has been some time though.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 713767)

Last I heard he was working on SOC stuff for the NWA guys. It has been some time though.

What? No more humping lizards?:p

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 713769)

What? No more humping lizards?:p

It appears that the joke has worn off. I instead put a shiny new jet up......

The joke has not worn off.

But, I can understand if you have to bring it down but I think when you're in a heated argument about scope (i.e. somebody getting screwed over) you ought to bring it back up there.

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 713707)

Now now, Slowplay and Sailing and Alpha all bring interesting points of view to the thread. They speak more authoritatively as to what the MEC is really thinking than most of the rest of us.

The problem is that they and the rest of the Moak team continue to operate under the philosophy that its their job to help management make Delta Air Lines profitable. The Moak administration has put the needs of management ahead of, or at least on par with, those of the pilots.
Some of that is fine. I'm all for a cooperative relationship. But its gotten out of balance. The MEC has started to think like management. They view our contractual rights as a "cost". As something that only hinders the corporation in its quest for world domination.
Now they're on this website starting to soften up the audience for the next secret LOA or JV or whatever, to accomodate "shared flying" with JAL. They predict doom and gloom if we don't go along.
They may be right. (although I'm not entirely convinced). But if we are going to be taking all these risks in partnership with management then we should also share in the rewards. Its time for some financial restoration.

This JAL deal better include some money for the pilots. Its pretty obvious we aren't bankrupt anymore if we've got the resources to finance Japan Airlines' restructuring. We shouldn't have to wait another 3-5 years to get some improvements to our bankruptcy pay rates.

I hope the MEC will remember who they represent in this negotiation.
Quit explaining to me why the corporation needs this and that from the pilots.
Start explaining to the corporation why the pilots need some things from them.

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 713779)

The problem is that they and the rest of the Moak team continue to operate under the philosophy that its their job to help management make Delta Air Lines profitable. The Moak administration has put the needs of management ahead of, or at least on par with, those of the pilots.
Some of that is fine. I'm all for a cooperative relationship. But its gotten out of balance. The MEC has started to think like management. They view our contractual rights as a "cost". As something that only hinders the corporation in its quest for world domination.
Now they're on this website starting to soften up the audience for the next secret LOA or JV or whatever, to accomodate "shared flying" with JAL. They predict doom and gloom if we don't go along.
They may be right. (although I'm not entirely convinced). But if we are going to be taking all these risks in partnership with management then we should also share in the rewards. Its time for some financial restoration.

This JAL deal better include some money for the pilots. Its pretty obvious we aren't bankrupt anymore if we've got the resources to finance Japan Airlines' restructuring. We shouldn't have to wait another 3-5 years to get some improvements to our bankruptcy pay rates.

I hope the MEC will remember who they represent in this negotiation.
Quit explaining to me why the corporation needs this and that from the pilots. Start explaining to the corporation why the pilots need some things from them.

I couldnt have said it better myself!!

Sorry for the temporary drift because Check is feugo but:

747-800 is out of the shop:
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/image.php?id=2635