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MikeF16 11-03-2015 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by NoDeskJob (Post 2004892)
I don't work for delta yet, but can you guys expound on the last couple posts? Also, there can be no way a 4 day is worth 11 hours. Help a soon to be new guy out please. :)

A carryout or spillover trip is one that extends from the current bid month into the next. That trip can be changed without your consent in the next bid month. You've seen Lethal Weapon 2 right? Carryout trips are the drive thru.

GunshipGuy 11-03-2015 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 2004899)
Our 4 day trips are worth 21 hours minimum. "11 hours credit" would imply that he's getting paid for 11 hours above his actual flight time for the trip.

Said another way, 21 hour trip with 11 hours credit thus 10 hours block time. Which would make it stand out as a likely spillover trip where the company can adjust it and reduce the credit time.

Hrkdrivr 11-03-2015 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by NoDeskJob (Post 2004892)
I don't work for delta yet, but can you guys expound on the last couple posts? Also, there can be no way a 4 day is worth 11 hours. Help a soon to be new guy out please. :)


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 2004899)
Our 4 day trips are worth 21 hours minimum. "11 hours credit" would imply that he's getting paid for 11 hours above his actual flight time for the trip.

Yes...so ~10 hours block time for 21 hours pay, over 4 days.

The carry-out ("spill") trips start at end of one month and spill into the next. After the trips are awarded, the company can change the schedule on the days in the spill month, and/or add up to 1 day. In my case and GunshipGuy's, they added a leg on the (previously) last day to a layover, and then added an extra day. The company has until the 4th of the month to change the schedule on the spill days in the following month.

In any case, I've already traded my old trip away for something better (less bad?); Homie don't like 5-day trips! :D

EDIT: Or what GunshipGuy said in fewer words!

iaflyer 11-03-2015 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 2004759)
Gurus,

Can a scheduling genius tell me my reserve obligation would be (days on reserve) and what my credit would be for the month given alv of 82:30, 22:45 vacation and a carry in trip credit of 23:00.

You don't say whether you get an extra X day, but the calculator says:

No Extra X Day: 10 off days, 14 on call days, 7 vacation days.
One Extra X Day: 11 off days, 13 on call days, 7 vacation days.

The carry-in trip credit doesn't change anything for days off in bidding, as far as I can tell. When you start the month, you'd get 23:00 hours of time already flown, so your raw score would be that much higher.

full of luv 11-03-2015 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 2005032)
You don't say whether you get an extra X day, but the calculator says:

No Extra X Day: 10 off days, 14 on call days, 7 vacation days.
One Extra X Day: 11 off days, 13 on call days, 7 vacation days.

The carry-in trip credit doesn't change anything for days off in bidding, as far as I can tell. When you start the month, you'd get 23:00 hours of time already flown, so your raw score would be that much higher.

So if he had say four days of carryover would those be part of his on call days or off days when pbs assigns his schedule?

MikeF16 11-03-2015 05:45 PM

Got a call for an IA verification flight with a 0500 sign-in. Scheduler wasn't very descriptive and the rotation didn't show on open time. I'm wasted off my ass and won't be in any condition to be at work at 5am, so how easy of a rotation did I miss at premium pay?

Gunfighter 11-03-2015 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2005059)
So if he had say four days of carryover would those be part of his on call days or off days when pbs assigns his schedule?

Bid for them to be on call days if you know of the spill over before bidding or ask for an X day move if it's after the bids are out.

RockyBoy 11-03-2015 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 2005077)
Got a call for an IA verification flight with a 0500 sign-in. Scheduler wasn't very descriptive and the rotation didn't show on open time. I'm wasted off my ass and won't be in any condition to be at work at 5am, so how easy of a rotation did I miss at premium pay?

I never take verification flights after getting burned more than once on them. They won't be ready at 0500 so you will sit around waiting for someone to get the airplane ready. If for some reason it falls through, you get 2 hours of suit up pay and that is it. There is a reason they are almost always going out as IA's....nobody else wants them for GS pay so they pass and eventually go into the assignment process.

MikeF16 11-04-2015 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 2005133)
I never take verification flights after getting burned more than once on them. They won't be ready at 0500 so you will sit around waiting for someone to get the airplane ready. If for some reason it falls through, you get 2 hours of suit up pay and that is it. There is a reason they are almost always going out as IA's....nobody else wants them for GS pay so they pass and eventually go into the assignment process.

Thanks. I figured it might be like the standard USAF FCF flight where MX wants a pilot at 8am but the damn thing doesn't takeoff until 1pm if ever. "Oh, just waiting on the MX/CC to sign the forms, but he's in a meeting and should be out in a few minutes..."

BTW, that flight went straight to IA. It wasn't in open time and it didn't go out as a GS. That's kind of odd isn't it? I only found it online once somebody actually accepted it on the daily trip coverage page.

boog123 11-04-2015 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2005109)
Bid for them to be on call days if you know of the spill over before bidding or ask for an X day move if it's after the bids are out.

If the calculator shows on call days of 14, the 3 days of spill don't count as days worked? Ouch!

The spill trip is there already, so you are saying I can bid say, "reserve days 1-7" and PBS would award reserve days on those dates even though I have a spill trip on some of the same days?

Thanks


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