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Tomcat 03-26-2010 06:09 AM

80 Cseries300 configured at 138 seats
 
http://planenews.com/wp-content/uplo...S300-LR-HR.jpg

acl65pilot 03-26-2010 06:11 AM

Delta Connection flying aircraft will only bear the name “Delta” as part of a phrase
referencing a Connection-type operation.

The above is the only reference as to how the name Delta will be used by a Category A Operator

FWIW.....

Red Forman 03-26-2010 06:12 AM

Does Delta fly to Tahiti? I didn't think they did, but I was on travelnet and saw a 777 DL flight from LAX-PPT. Just curious.

acl65pilot 03-26-2010 06:17 AM

It is Air France from LAX to PPT.

acl65pilot 03-26-2010 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 784181)

Looks like a great jet to fly as my first A seat. I would be darn happy to do so too!

No way I will every vote for any agreements that takes anything close to this and lets DCI or the like fly it.

sinca3 03-26-2010 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 784173)
Uh.. yeah this IS important. If our brand is being diluted, I think we have a reason to be concerned. As it is, passengers are clueless as to whose airplane they really are riding on sometimes, and this furthers blurring that line. But to ask you the question: At what point would YOU become concerned about who is calling themselves "Delta Air Lines"? would you care if Comair suddenly started this? How about Air France (when they are flying to/from the USA) This has a real parallel to scope in my mind, but I could be wrong.

I agree DCI shouldn't be saying "Deltaxxx" on the PA's but I don't think we should do more than send a letter or a quick phone call from the MEC chair to get this corrected.
I agree we should stay on top of scope/outsourcing/etc. I just don't feel we need to be badgering about it. That not only gets old but seems unprofessional. When that starts to happen we loose our credibility, and then no one takes us serious.
Once again I agree with the angst, just not with the way we need to handle it.

acl65pilot 03-26-2010 06:27 AM

Factually speaking, they are correct. It is Delta Flight XXXX. Just another way to blur the lines as much as possible.

It is a PR campaign to try and hide the pig with lipstick. No more no less.

It is part of the reason that the MEH operation is in such trouble. MidEx Connect is not MEH, and there is nothing you can do to change that.

Tinpusher007 03-26-2010 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 784173)
Uh.. yeah this IS important. If our brand is being diluted, I think we have a reason to be concerned. As it is, passengers are clueless as to whose airplane they really are riding on sometimes, and this furthers blurring that line. But to ask you the question: At what point would YOU become concerned about who is calling themselves "Delta Air Lines"? would you care if Comair suddenly started this? How about Air France (when they are flying to/from the USA) This has a real parallel to scope in my mind, but I could be wrong.

Point taken, but as long as our flights are marketed as DL flights, thats all the pax are going to notice. Pax are far too busy trying to stuff bags into our overheads that they know won't fit to draw a distinction between whether they heard the flight attendant say Delta, Delta Connection, Mesaba, Pinnacle or Comair, etc. The boarding pass says DL, the flight info on the info screen says DL, every gate in the terminal says DL and so does the airplane's paint.

FWIW, at Mesaba, Im not aware of anything telling us to specifically say "DELTA" while omitting the "connection" reference. Most announcements I've heard say DL Connection. Also, our new ID's don't have the DL logo or name anywhere on them and Im told doing so was specifically prohibited by DL.

Tomcat 03-26-2010 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 784186)
Looks like a great jet to fly as my first A seat. I would be darn happy to do so too!

No way I will every vote for any agreements that takes anything close to this and lets DCI or the like fly it.

ACL, you would look really good sitting in that left seat! I think I can see your smile through the cockpit window. :D

Tomcat 03-26-2010 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 784173)
Uh.. yeah this IS important. If our brand is being diluted, I think we have a reason to be concerned. As it is, passengers are clueless as to whose airplane they really are riding on sometimes, and this furthers blurring that line. But to ask you the question: At what point would YOU become concerned about who is calling themselves "Delta Air Lines"? would you care if Comair suddenly started this? How about Air France (when they are flying to/from the USA) This has a real parallel to scope in my mind, but I could be wrong.

tsquare, thanks for your public stance and leadership as a widebody Captain on the issues of Section One.

TC


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