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Old 05-30-2014, 09:04 AM
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Nothing wrong with getting some airbus stink on you while you're young.
Like the old motto: Go ugly early
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:22 AM
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I don't have a job here yet, just an interview, but I was wondering what would you guys bid if you had your roots set down in SOCAL with no intention of moving in the next 7-8 years?
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Old 05-30-2014, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by T45Heinous View Post
I don't have a job here yet, just an interview, but I was wondering what would you guys bid if you had your roots set down in SOCAL with no intention of moving in the next 7-8 years?

As of now the junior equipment on the West coast (LAX) is the 737. At the present hiring pace it could be 6 months to 2 years to get to LAX as a new-hire on the 737.

The 320 will get you to SLC in a similar amount of time and the 88 only gets you as far west as MSP.

717 will get you DTW or ATL ASAP but no further west.

If I were in your situation I would hope for the 737. If I could not get that I would try for the 320. The SOCAL to SLC commute is pretty easy.

YMMV.

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Old 05-30-2014, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by T45Heinous View Post
I don't have a job here yet, just an interview, but I was wondering what would you guys bid if you had your roots set down in SOCAL with no intention of moving in the next 7-8 years?
I agree with the above. 737 first and foremost. If and only if SLC 320 would be a massive improvement for you (check out commutes and trips before you bid) then 320. However unless it was awesome I'd stick with 737 and tread water until you could hold LA. I agree with the 6 months to 2 years timeframe. If hiring keeps up at this rate, it could easily be a year or less I'd guess.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
I see that pic and I immediately think -- wear a helmet!

The 320 is probably popular with newhires because it's a fairly good compromise between the fast movement but utter discomfort of flying an 88 (brutal trips), and the slow movement and utter discomfort of flying a 737 (brutal cockpit*).


* My favorite 737 quip: 2 guys in a phonebooth in a hurricane doing what 3 guys used to do in the 727.
A 2 hour cockpit strapped to a 7 hour gas tank.
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Old 05-31-2014, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by T45Heinous View Post
I don't have a job here yet, just an interview, but I was wondering what would you guys bid if you had your roots set down in SOCAL with no intention of moving in the next 7-8 years?
My take is a bit different:

You should plan on commuting your 1st year. Given this, I would take what I can hold a line on soonest and best commutable line soonest. Easy choice, the mighty Mad Dog!

You have a 1 year seat freeze. Leave a LA 737 bid in the system and when you can get it, you will.

Best of luck.
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Old 06-01-2014, 12:22 PM
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I think that SLC B737/A320 commute would be much more doable than the Midwest or ATL MD88 route, especially from SOCAL. I'm still obviously very green about all of this, so I appreciate everyone's opinion. Thanks!
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Old 06-01-2014, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by T45Heinous View Post
I think that SLC B737/A320 commute would be much more doable than the Midwest or ATL MD88 route, especially from SOCAL. I'm still obviously very green about all of this, so I appreciate everyone's opinion. Thanks!
SLC is still really senior..May be a long tome before you get out here. I recommend ATL88..one airport to cover, plenty of direct flights out of SOCAL and you'll have folks coming in under you making it more likely to get a line.

Commuting to reserve really sux..IMHO
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by T45Heinous View Post
I don't have a job here yet, just an interview, but I was wondering what would you guys bid if you had your roots set down in SOCAL with no intention of moving in the next 7-8 years?
United! Ok, kind of kidding. Delta is a east coast airline and always has been. You should be able to get to LAX fairly soon on the 737.
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Old 06-01-2014, 05:37 PM
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Why is the 320 so popular opposed to the 737 even in NYC? Doesn't the 320 do RJ type flying?
It is a variety of factors. In no particular order, what I think accounts for it's relative seniority is:
  • Much more comfortable than the 737
  • The 737, MD88 and 717 fleets have been growing. The growth results in junior pilots bidding into the vacancies
I think as new jets start to arrive into that fleet it will become roughly equal to the 737. Frankly, the extra money the 737 pays probably is not worth the ergonomic trade-offs (YMMV)

My 112 pound wife went flying with me. As she sat in the Captain's seat she said "how do you guys fit in this thing" ... and she drives a Miata, wants a Lotus Elise ... she likes little cockpits ... hey wait! that's not how that was supposed to come out
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