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Old 09-15-2014 | 05:56 PM
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Subject: Endeavor Air is hiring Pilots



Delta Air Lines is now hiring rATP and ATP qualified pilots through Endeavor Air!
Are you ready for the final airline job interview of your career? New hire candidates applying at Endeavor Air now have the exclusive opportunity to be hired utilizing the Delta selection process. The Delta Air Lines pilot selection process is ABSOLUTE, meaning the successful applicant will never have to undergo it again.
A successful outcome also means that you will never have to guess if, how, or what major airline job you will end up with. This commitment is the only one of its kind and finally gives pilots the progression in which the industry has been promising for years!
We call this the Endeavor to Delta Commitment, or EtD.
Endeavor Air, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Delta, has transformed into a vibrant and innovative carrier committed to being the best place to work in the regional airline industry. Successful tenures at Endeavor will offer competitive pay and benefits to new hire pilots as well as an unrivaled career opportunity for continuous growth at Delta Air Lines - Fortune Magazine's 2014 most admired airline for the third time in four years.
Pilots hired at Endeavor under the EtD Commitment will, upon becoming and remaining eligible under the provisions of the Endeavor-to-Delta Pilot Hiring and Commitment Program document, be hired as Delta pilots. As an EtD Commitment pilot, you will not be required to re-interview with Delta as your selection and screening by Endeavor and demonstrated performance thereafter will serve as your ticket to Delta.
Endeavor Air and Delta Air Lines look forward to your interest in pilot opportunities at Endeavor to fly as part of the Delta Connection family.
Endeavor Air operates 850 daily flights as Delta Connection using 150 regional jets to more than 100 cities in the United States and Canada.
Full details on this exciting hiring program can be found by visiting the Endeavor Air careers website at Endeavor Air.
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Old 09-15-2014 | 06:26 PM
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Just tell them you were a Coastie ... and no Germans, Koreans, Viet Kong or Iraqi's have ever put a boot on US soil, so obviously your branch fulfilled it's mission.

That shuts 'em up.
Haha. They'll just come back with, but you let the Japanese on our soil...way to screw that up!
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Old 09-15-2014 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Forgive me but Im not sure what you are referring to here. I worked at Comair for a short time but Im not sure how you would know that. The 757 is much nicer than the CRJ and I make way more as an FO at Delta than I did at Comair. I dont know what the Comair MEC has to do with anything. I was 15 years old twenty years ago.

Bohicagain and I were senior at Compass which is a very small company. We both have more people below us at Delta than we ever did at Compass yet are still more junior than we ever were at Compass. My comment was just an observation of the difference between tiny companies and giant companies.

I'm guessing there was a miscommunication somewhere. I'm actually curious to see what it was.
Don't sweat it, Timbo is a little bit old and hitting the sauce tonight.....it happens with age.
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Old 09-15-2014 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
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Subject: Endeavor Air is hiring Pilots



Delta Air Lines is now hiring rATP and ATP qualified pilots through Endeavor Air!
Are you ready for the final airline job interview of your career? New hire candidates applying at Endeavor Air now have the exclusive opportunity to be hired utilizing the Delta selection process. The Delta Air Lines pilot selection process is ABSOLUTE, meaning the successful applicant will never have to undergo it again.
A successful outcome also means that you will never have to guess if, how, or what major airline job you will end up with. This commitment is the only one of its kind and finally gives pilots the progression in which the industry has been promising for years!
We call this the Endeavor to Delta Commitment, or EtD.
Endeavor Air, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Delta, has transformed into a vibrant and innovative carrier committed to being the best place to work in the regional airline industry. Successful tenures at Endeavor will offer competitive pay and benefits to new hire pilots as well as an unrivaled career opportunity for continuous growth at Delta Air Lines - Fortune Magazine's 2014 most admired airline for the third time in four years.
Pilots hired at Endeavor under the EtD Commitment will, upon becoming and remaining eligible under the provisions of the Endeavor-to-Delta Pilot Hiring and Commitment Program document, be hired as Delta pilots. As an EtD Commitment pilot, you will not be required to re-interview with Delta as your selection and screening by Endeavor and demonstrated performance thereafter will serve as your ticket to Delta.
Endeavor Air and Delta Air Lines look forward to your interest in pilot opportunities at Endeavor to fly as part of the Delta Connection family.
Endeavor Air operates 850 daily flights as Delta Connection using 150 regional jets to more than 100 cities in the United States and Canada.
Full details on this exciting hiring program can be found by visiting the Endeavor Air careers website at Endeavor Air.
After hearing of a few American Eagle pilots who were on flowthrough to AA being fired before they finished training due to poor performance I would think it would play out the same at Delta. They were guaranteed a job too, but you still need to pass training.
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Old 09-15-2014 | 06:38 PM
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After hearing of a few American Eagle pilots who were on flowthrough to AA being fired before they finished training due to poor performance I would think it would play out the same at Delta. They were guaranteed a job too, but you still need to pass training.
Don't know about AA, but Delta's training is really not set up that way. In the interest of efficiency, we've got DGS instructors who are outsourced, then we have Flight Instructors who are FO's (well thought of and smart, but not oriented with the horsepower to go firing new hires). Typically only checking events bring out Line Check Airmen (and women) and APDs.

Simply put, an applicant can expect Delta to act with good faith. In training everyone has a good attitude and does their best to help the new hire.
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Old 09-15-2014 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Don't know about AA, but Delta's training is really not set up that way. In the interest of efficiency, we've got DGS instructors who are outsourced, then we have Flight Instructors who are FO's (well thought of and smart, but not oriented with the horsepower to go firing new hires). Typically only checking events bring out Line Check Airmen (and women) and APDs.

Simply put, an applicant can expect Delta to act with good faith. In training everyone has a good attitude and does their best to help the new hire.
True that! The training dept is excellent. Not the threat is was back in 2000 and 2001. The instruction is much better and the approach is "big boy."
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Old 09-15-2014 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Forgive me but Im not sure what you are referring to here. I worked at Comair for a short time but Im not sure how you would know that. The 757 is much nicer than the CRJ and I make way more as an FO at Delta than I did at Comair. I dont know what the Comair MEC has to do with anything. I was 15 years old twenty years ago.

Bohicagain and I were senior at Compass which is a very small company. We both have more people below us at Delta than we ever did at Compass yet are still more junior than we ever were at Compass. My comment was just an observation of the difference between tiny companies and giant companies.

I'm guessing there was a miscommunication somewhere. I'm actually curious to see what it was.

I know everything, about every one, I know where you worked, who you voted for and you mother's maiden name!

All your bases are belong to us!

My point was, there was a time, when you were 15, when an RJ MEC could have had all of their pilots on the Delta Seniority List.

But a few tools at the top of Com Air's MEC wanted 'Date of Hire' on the Delta list, so it didn't happen.

We were -that close- to eliminating the RJ whipsawing. But a few clowns at the top wanted to be 767 Captains over night and the industry has been paying the price for their greed ever since.

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Old 09-15-2014 | 08:01 PM
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I know everything, about every one, I know where you worked, who you voted for and you mother's maiden name!

All your bases are belong to us!

My point was, there was a time, when you were 15, when an RJ MEC could have had all of their pilots on the Delta Seniority List.

But a few tools at the top wanted 'Date of Hire' on the Delta list, so it didn't happen.

We were -that close- to eliminating the RJ whipsawing. But a few clowns at the top wanted to be 767 Captains over night and the industry has been paying the price for their greed ever since.
Precisely. I was one of the DAL furloughees that could have been blended into Comair but was not due to politics with the Comair MEC. Water under the bridge and Comair went away. I think Boomer can speak to that.

I know Timbo and 1) he's not that old, and 2) when he does partake of the sauce, its the good stuff. It only makes him smarter.
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Old 09-15-2014 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Precisely. I was one of the DAL furloughees that could have been blended into Comair but was not due to politics with the Comair MEC. Water under the bridge and Comair went away. I think Boomer can speak to that.

I know Timbo and 1) he's not that old, and 2) when he does partake of the sauce, its the good stuff. It only makes him smarter.
Thank you for your support Buzz.

And as you well know, drinking only makes you smarter, it thins out the 'slower' brain cells that can't out run the alcohol!

Survival of the fittest!

I'm not a fan of either the Colts or the Eagles, but boy, the Refs. sure screwed the Colts out of a win tonight!

And...why were they throwing from the Eagles 20 on 3rd and long, when they could have kicked a field goal and won the game??
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Old 09-15-2014 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
True that! The training dept is excellent. Not the threat is was back in 2000 and 2001. The instruction is much better and the approach is "big boy."
I don't remember the training dept being a threat back in 2000/2001, unless you're talking about the 727 FE program. Them boys was crazy what with their, "I'm a molecule of air. Take me through the pneumatic system."
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