Market? What is this market of which you speak? Where are we in his market now, and where would the agreement have placed us in this market?

You may be on to something BIG!

 

Those are questions for management, not me. At least you concede that there is abuse. Some don't.

 

I never claimed sick leave changes were not a concession, though for me, having to complete a doctor note once in a while is not a huge burden. So were the OE changes. PS, not so much. Every agreement, including the one you may someday vote for, will have concessions. They occur on both sides of the ledger. Management conceded at least $1.1B net in this last one.

 

Yes, of course, if they win, it'll be Sam Adams Latitude 48.

And if they lose, the quantity, not the quality, of the beer in your mug might go down, by the time I hand it to you it might only be half full...

Gronk did alright last night, 3 TD catches and the fumble recovery. Good to see him healthy again.

 

Why do you hate America?

The agreements we signed to stay out of, and then to get out of, Bankruptcy, were full of concessions, many of which are ongoing today, such as PAY still 18% below 2004 rates, No DB Plan, PBS Staffing efficiencies with us flying 87 instead of 75, and huge increases in medical insurance costs.

We have ALREADY given Delta all the concessions they needed to survive!

We paid IN ADVANCE!

Delta doesn't NEED any more concessions from it's pilot group to survive today. They would LIKE to get us to trade more concessions for more 3% pay raises, and you want to help them do it. Stockholm Syndrome, pure and simple.

Why? How much money does Delta have to earn before you stand up and say, ENOUGH CONCESSIONS!

Instead of trying to sell us more concessions, why don't you try working to RESTORE our contract to PRE-BANKRUPTCY pay/retirement levels?

 

So you agreed to a policy in which you have no understanding how the company is going to follow through on? Yikes!!!

Why hide the answer on what the company will do?

 

That last sentence simply is not true. They did not concede. They negotiated to pay the pilots profit sharing many moons ago. It was coming regardless of the TA. Now they want to call it a pay raise. Make it an expense. Wrong.

They also decided to give profit sharing to 60,000 plus non contract employees. Not our problem. They can fix that with the stroke of a pen. Oh, they're worried about organizing the mechanics/FA's. Pay us through vacation, training, per diem and DC. Monetize in a meaningful way.

Give us data and examples of sick leave abuse. I haven't seen it documented. Fixing chronic abuse can be done without opening a can of worms for honest pilots. Hence, let's stick with Dalpa's opener, no changes in sick leave.

Most of all, let's ask our union to explain why they come out 4 months early with this TA. Why a short period to evaluate the TA? Why no pro/con paper? Why vote days before the Q2 profit report? Why does the union leadership make public statements saying this is the best we can do, no money left on the table. Dalpa shot itself in the foot bringing the TA to the pilots. Amateur behavior. Any pilot that's been here more than a month knew the TA was subpar in this environment.

And you guys still don't get it! Keep fighting.

 

I don't concede. Verify then trust. Show me the documented abuse. If this is truly the case deal with it on an individual basis. If it was a significant problem it would have and still can be addressed by LOA outside of sect. 6. This is an invented problem to drive productivity and reduce expectations.

 

Much better way of saying what I was trying to tell him.

Bottom line.........the sick leave method they came up with violated the KISS principal

Once upon a time I had 5 years perfect attendance.....but I was young. But seriously, I have no problem getting a doctor's note. In fact my wife loves it, it makes me see the doctor vs John Wayne-ing it through and getting her sick too.

Shoot the guilty and leave me alone IE no change to the current sick leave method.

Ferd

 

No, I don't concede to abuse. I'm not privy to such information. You are the one suggesting abuse, hence my question.