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#1961
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Position: B767 FO
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Just under one year (8-10 months). About 100 NYC 7ER spots went unfilled from the latest AE, so it will probably come down more as hiring is “planned” to continue into it. Also it’s a seosonal fleet with reserve coverage dropping off in summer months (a few more hard lines) compared to winters.
Last edited by iflysky; 01-22-2018 at 07:15 PM.
#1962
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#1964
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 24
Class is coming up in a month and I’m still unsure what I want to bid on. I live in the DC area but I’m willing to move to LAX or ATL.
This is what I found from almost a year ago:
I like the 7ER for the international flying but I’m not sure how good QoL is on reserve.
Considerations:
A320 will grow rapidly. 717 seems to have quick progression and almost as quick of an upgrade as the M88, along with more bases to chose from. 737 seems to have better destinations. My SSN puts me in the bottom half.
How fast is seniority progression for A320 NYC? How long until you can hold a line?
Thanks in advance for the help! Looking forward to joining the family. :-)
This is what I found from almost a year ago:
ATL - New hires are getting domestic narrowbody in ATL. Biggest crew base.
777, 330, 765, 7ER, 737, 320, M88, 717
DTW - junior FO is on the 717, followed closely by the 320 and 737, all hired since summer 2016.
747, 777, 330, 7ER, 737, 320, 717
MSP - junior FO hired Feb 2016. May be some more junior guys in training. MSP is a relatively senior base with lots of former NWA, but retirements loom.
7ER, 737, 320, M88
NYC - new hires getting NYC, including the 7ER (757/767 domestic and int'l). Second biggest crew base.
330, 765, 7ER, 737, 320, M88 (NYC M88 base is closing), 717
SLC - junior FO hired Aug 2016 on the 320.
7ER, 73N, 320
LAX - junior FO hired Sep 2016. Bombardier C-series coming here first summer 2018.
777, 7ER, 737, 717.
SEA - junior FO hired May 2016.
330, 7ER, 737
CVG - junior FO hired Sep 2014. Very small base, only 75-80 FOs total.
737, M88
777, 330, 765, 7ER, 737, 320, M88, 717
DTW - junior FO is on the 717, followed closely by the 320 and 737, all hired since summer 2016.
747, 777, 330, 7ER, 737, 320, 717
MSP - junior FO hired Feb 2016. May be some more junior guys in training. MSP is a relatively senior base with lots of former NWA, but retirements loom.
7ER, 737, 320, M88
NYC - new hires getting NYC, including the 7ER (757/767 domestic and int'l). Second biggest crew base.
330, 765, 7ER, 737, 320, M88 (NYC M88 base is closing), 717
SLC - junior FO hired Aug 2016 on the 320.
7ER, 73N, 320
LAX - junior FO hired Sep 2016. Bombardier C-series coming here first summer 2018.
777, 7ER, 737, 717.
SEA - junior FO hired May 2016.
330, 7ER, 737
CVG - junior FO hired Sep 2014. Very small base, only 75-80 FOs total.
737, M88
Considerations:
A320 will grow rapidly. 717 seems to have quick progression and almost as quick of an upgrade as the M88, along with more bases to chose from. 737 seems to have better destinations. My SSN puts me in the bottom half.
How fast is seniority progression for A320 NYC? How long until you can hold a line?
Thanks in advance for the help! Looking forward to joining the family. :-)
#1965
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,370
Class is coming up in a month and I’m still unsure what I want to bid on. I live in the DC area but I’m willing to move to LAX or ATL.
This is what I found from almost a year ago:
I like the 7ER for the international flying but I’m not sure how good QoL is on reserve.
Considerations:
A320 will grow rapidly. 717 seems to have quick progression and almost as quick of an upgrade as the M88, along with more bases to chose from. 737 seems to have better destinations. My SSN puts me in the bottom half.
How fast is seniority progression for A320 NYC? How long until you can hold a line?
Thanks in advance for the help! Looking forward to joining the family. :-)
This is what I found from almost a year ago:
I like the 7ER for the international flying but I’m not sure how good QoL is on reserve.
Considerations:
A320 will grow rapidly. 717 seems to have quick progression and almost as quick of an upgrade as the M88, along with more bases to chose from. 737 seems to have better destinations. My SSN puts me in the bottom half.
How fast is seniority progression for A320 NYC? How long until you can hold a line?
Thanks in advance for the help! Looking forward to joining the family. :-)
If you have a specific base you want and there is an a/c in that base available that might make it easy. Otherwise, consider where aircraft have bases. 737 is at all the bases. MD-88 is going to be ATL only. 717, 737, 7ER, A320 are all something you can get in NYC. Each drop is different so consider that. My class didn't have any 7ER slots, but we did have 717 and A320 in NYC (our only 320s were in NYC). Bottom half will be iffy anyway. Expect 717 or MD-88 although there are some surprises, especially if you are willing to take NYC.
MSP might be the only base without new hires in it. I think the junior in the AE to CVG 73N wasn't off IOE yet.
Last edited by Baradium; 01-22-2018 at 08:55 PM.
#1966
The future of this airline seems to be going Airbus with 737's. If I was a new hire now, I'd probably go A320/21 initially. I hate spending time down on Virginia Ave going thru training.
Good Luck with your decision!
Denny
#1967
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,102
#1968
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,208
Class is coming up in a month and I’m still unsure what I want to bid on. I live in the DC area but I’m willing to move to LAX or ATL.
This is what I found from almost a year ago:
I like the 7ER for the international flying but I’m not sure how good QoL is on reserve.
Considerations:
A320 will grow rapidly. 717 seems to have quick progression and almost as quick of an upgrade as the M88, along with more bases to chose from. 737 seems to have better destinations. My SSN puts me in the bottom half.
How fast is seniority progression for A320 NYC? How long until you can hold a line?
Thanks in advance for the help! Looking forward to joining the family. :-)
This is what I found from almost a year ago:
I like the 7ER for the international flying but I’m not sure how good QoL is on reserve.
Considerations:
A320 will grow rapidly. 717 seems to have quick progression and almost as quick of an upgrade as the M88, along with more bases to chose from. 737 seems to have better destinations. My SSN puts me in the bottom half.
How fast is seniority progression for A320 NYC? How long until you can hold a line?
Thanks in advance for the help! Looking forward to joining the family. :-)
Next month I decided to bid specific trips and I got everything I asked for it. Also when the winter storms hit, you’ll get a lot of cancelarlos and reroutes. That could be a downside or if you’re like me, I really don’t care.
Im a commuter and so far it’s been a great base. Another downside is that you might want a crashpad and that’s about $3k a year, unless you want to pay for hotels which are not cheap.
#1970
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,277
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