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Old 01-22-2018 | 09:09 PM
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Absolutely. Look at how long it takes to get a call back to interview, get into a class once you receive a CJO. If there is growth, people will make lateral moves to chase the upgrade, coupled with great pay. Unless some United feed gets a flow. Some regionals are going to be dying off while Endeavor continues to grow
Yes but the majors are planning on hiring roughly 4,000 this year. A very large chunk of those will be regional pilots. So first you have to hire to make up for that attrition. Not saying they can’t do it, especially if one or more regionals close up shop or are acquired for bodies.
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Old 01-22-2018 | 09:13 PM
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Yes but the majors are planning on hiring roughly 4,000 this year. A very large chunk of those will be regional pilots. So first you have to hire to make up for that attrition. Not saying they can’t do it, especially if one or more regionals close up shop or are acquired for bodies.
The majors hired over 4900 last year (2017). It will likely be closer to 6000 in 2018.
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Old 01-23-2018 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
The majors hired over 4900 last year (2017). It will likely be closer to 6000 in 2018.
Don’t doubt your numbers, but can you provide the source?

Does this include the LCC hires? Some of those are backfills for hires to the 3 legacies, etc. so are sort of a double count if you will.
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Old 01-23-2018 | 07:43 AM
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I was just making a rough number. Only thing I know forsure (projected) is Delta at 1,000-1,200 American at 920 SWA around 600 and united around 600.

I haven’t heard about Fedex, UPS, Alaska.
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Old 01-23-2018 | 08:26 AM
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In 2016, those airlines you listed hired 3,552. I did not have the 2017 numbers.

https://fapa.aero/hiringhistory.asp

Do you have a source for the 2017 actual number total?

The forecasts you have for the airlines for 2018 agree with what I have heard. Don’t know about the others.
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Old 01-23-2018 | 08:41 AM
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Fedex is planning 420~460 this year. 2017 was roughly 400


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Old 01-23-2018 | 10:54 AM
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Completely third hand info, but heard from a JS UA CA that they have decided to nearly double their forecasted hiring this year, somewhere north of 1,200.

Originally Posted by flysooner9
I was just making a rough number. Only thing I know forsure (projected) is Delta at 1,000-1,200 American at 920 SWA around 600 and united around 600.

I haven’t heard about Fedex, UPS, Alaska.
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Old 01-23-2018 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Completely third hand info, but heard from a JS UA CA that they have decided to nearly double their forecasted hiring this year, somewhere north of 1,200.
If you read their forum though it sounds like they haven't even met 50% of their hiring "forecast" for each of the last 3 years. Sounds like their training department is falling apart.
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Old 01-23-2018 | 06:38 PM
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That may be, cannot say.

I also heard they recently fired a millennial who would not stay off his phone, constantly instagramming and snapchatting. Last straw, he answered a call while in the sim. Dude got sent home for good. Idiot, he blew the chance of a lifetime.


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If you read their forum though it sounds like they haven't even met 50% of their hiring "forecast" for each of the last 3 years. Sounds like their training department is falling apart.
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Old 01-23-2018 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
Sounds like their training department is falling apart.
They moved a bunch of sims from Houston to Denver. That was a big slow down in training capacity.
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