I remember reading they want you to put in your bid and current hours for CA even if you don't meet all the requirements as of yet. So yes, I think so. Might be wrong though.

 

Maybe, I've met some really great pilots who work there, and they didn't come off like this. And I won't count anything out, but Delta never has and likely never will be my first, or my second choice. I'd love to work for any legacy one day, but United, American, FedEx, and UPS are a higher priority than Delta for me.

 

There was a company email that said they will NOT project out for the 1000 121 SIC, only the 1000 hour company requirement. This is because you can't start day 1 of ground school without the required FAA time.

 

The only projections specified in the contract are 75hrs/month toward the 1000 hour company time (between vacancy bid and anticipated training start from award). Nothing regarding projections for 121 time. As someone said, the 121 time is not waiverable at all, whereas the company time is.


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You ever fly with him? I have. Excellent pilot and great attitude. Made a huge mistake but is humble about it and made up for it.

 

1000 hour company and 2500 total are both project-able. 1000 121 is not. The real key is, how big is the next vacancy, because that will ultimately determine how far it gets waved.

 

Here it is again. Another person that actually believes Delta pilots have any say on flow. Sure, ALPA would help craft language on the subject but would not be their idea to start the conversation. Obviously you have no idea how inept some Delta pilots think ALPA has been in our current negotiations because it's laughable to think ALPA has this much sway over the company. They are typically reactive not proactive.

There is a philosophical difference between AA and Delta when it comes to staffing for the upcoming massive retirements. AA has chosen the more cost effective way with a flow program. Yes, flows have interviewed but you cannot equate a WO regional interview with any mainline interview. They are in two different worlds. Delta, on the other hand, still believes they can afford to be selective and therefore wants to keep their tried and true method of holding the 2 day interview process for off the street and the 1 day for SSP interviews. How this philosophy can be twisted into condescending remarks about the pilot group is beyond me.

As many people have stated, the people that weren't hired through SSP gave Delta reason(s) for not hiring them. It always falls on the applicant. Try to blame the process all you want but Delta invites everyone to campus to interview with the intention to hire them. If applicants don't meet the minimum score then they don't get the CJO. It really can't be more simple.

I'm sorry to hear you have Delta last on your list. But given your rather irrational criticism of the company, its decisions, and its pilot group, it's probably for the best.


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Yet Delta is now having 80 hour IOE's. It is becoming a safety issue at Delta now with the quick upgrade. The low time hires can now be captain with a low time FO. This will be interesting. It's going to catch up to Delta.

 

There was nothing irrational about my criticisms. My biggest criticism, the lunacy that Delta can deny an SSP interviewer the opportunity to fly passengers at mainline Delta, but maintain that the pilot can fly those same passengers at its regional subsidiary is completely logical.

 

Then you have to apply that lunacy description to any mainline carrier that has any regional flying for them regardless if they are WO or not.

We mutually hate the regional model. Again, it's outside of our individual control but it's the reality of our world right now.

Delta sets the requirements. Some people don't meet all of them and therefore don't get the job. That has to be understandable.