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05-09-2018 | 04:13 AM
#121
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With being here 2 years and seeing double the seniority behind me, it is interesting the Protected Pilots are getting so much at the expense of over half the pilots on the roster. I realize a lot of the MEC is about to flow and about time to clear the cobwebs but with well over half the list here less than 2 years i dont want to hear about the protected pilots 8 years on reserve or any other violins they wanna play. I want pay and qol, irregardless of them and the contract they all voted in thats a complete joke.
05-09-2018 | 04:18 AM
#122
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and you want to talk about perspective? Dude... You should stick with the, there are winners and losers rant.
05-09-2018 | 04:34 AM
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So tired of the argument that I’m supposed to be ok with being crapped on just because someone else was crapped on long before me. 12 year flow all around would be fair? Guess what, if the outlook of the industry was similar to when you decided to stick it out at Eagle, then I would never have chosen this career. The 5 year flow is the only reason I’m an airline pilot. I would have taken a different line of work if retirements weren’t going through the roof, but somehow I’m supposed to pay reparations for what someone else’s generation did at this company like I had a say. Like telling women to stop complaining about sexual harassment because at least they get to vote. Stop living in the past and try to make this a better job while the times are conducive to gains.
05-09-2018 | 04:40 AM
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So tired of the argument that I’m supposed to be ok with being crapped on just because someone else was crapped on long before me. 12 year flow all around would be fair? Guess what, if the outlook of the industry was similar to when you decided to stick it out at Eagle, then I would never have chosen this career. The 5 year flow is the only reason I’m an airline pilot. I would have taken a different line of work if retirements weren’t going through the roof, but somehow I’m supposed to pay reparations for what someone else’s generation did at this company like I had a say. Like telling women to stop complaining about sexual harassment because at least they get to vote. Stop living in the past and try to make this a better job while the times are conducive to gains.
05-09-2018 | 04:48 AM
#126
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I saw 3-4, and I’m not sure it’s a gain if it’s correcting a flow violation, it should have been that way already. More of a Nuetral outcome on that minus the guys who already left who were hosed.
05-09-2018 | 04:52 AM
#127
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My flow date moved up 4 and possibly 5 months.
05-09-2018 | 04:58 AM
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05-09-2018 | 04:59 AM
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This is something that might soon be forgotten. I sat next to a guy last week that will be going to AA after 12+ years. All things staying the same, I'll be in his position in 4 years from today or at Delta in even less if that works out. That's totally unfair to the guys going now, but it's also the nature of the game.
Any FO that feels they aren't getting what they're entitled to is a Generation Z toddler that needs to take a hard look at how well-set they are to make an amazing career happen (and read up on some industry history). I would definitely consider these recent improvements a win. They weren't intended to benefit the FO group, but many FOs will benefit from them soon enough when they take a CA vacancy and get the immediate pay raise and when getting sent to LGA (if they even have to) becomes much more reasonable with the hotels and positive space to/from.
This is good news, which is better than bad news.
Any FO that feels they aren't getting what they're entitled to is a Generation Z toddler that needs to take a hard look at how well-set they are to make an amazing career happen (and read up on some industry history). I would definitely consider these recent improvements a win. They weren't intended to benefit the FO group, but many FOs will benefit from them soon enough when they take a CA vacancy and get the immediate pay raise and when getting sent to LGA (if they even have to) becomes much more reasonable with the hotels and positive space to/from.
This is good news, which is better than bad news.
Anyway, I appreciate that you stuck it out, I wouldn’t have that’s for sure, but please don’t project your frustration for having to do it on those that are fighting for the betterment of all the pilots.
Remember it’s also the low time guys, older guys switching careers and the people that didn’t slug it out through the crap that are pushing you up and out of here.
Much respect all around and hopefully this isn’t taken personally.
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