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02-28-2019, 08:18 AM
#62
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Now wait a minute! So you're telling me that a step 2 letter for attendence (sick call(s), not accepting a JM on a day off, ect...) all of a sudden has something to do with training records? I thought PRIA only had your training & checking records?
From faa.gov
PRIA requires that a hiring air carrier under 14 CFR parts 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, request, receive, and evaluate certain information concerning a pilot/applicant's training, experience, qualification, and safety background, before allowing that individual to begin service...
Or did I misunderstand, and you are talking about 2 different things?
From faa.gov
PRIA requires that a hiring air carrier under 14 CFR parts 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, request, receive, and evaluate certain information concerning a pilot/applicant's training, experience, qualification, and safety background, before allowing that individual to begin service...
Or did I misunderstand, and you are talking about 2 different things?
02-28-2019, 08:25 AM
#63
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Originally Posted by griff312
Now wait a minute! So you're telling me that a step 2 letter for attendence (sick call(s), not accepting a JM on a day off, ect...) all of a sudden has something to do with training records? I thought PRIA only had your training & checking records?
From faa.gov
PRIA requires that a hiring air carrier under 14 CFR parts 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, request, receive, and evaluate certain information concerning a pilot/applicant's training, experience, qualification, and safety background, before allowing that individual to begin service...
Or did I misunderstand, and you are talking about 2 different things?
From faa.gov
PRIA requires that a hiring air carrier under 14 CFR parts 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, request, receive, and evaluate certain information concerning a pilot/applicant's training, experience, qualification, and safety background, before allowing that individual to begin service...
Or did I misunderstand, and you are talking about 2 different things?
If you are hired after 2011, your flow to AA can be withheld by Envoy for any reason.
02-28-2019, 09:03 AM
#64
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Originally Posted by griff312
Now wait a minute! So you're telling me that a step 2 letter for attendence (sick call(s), not accepting a JM on a day off, ect...) all of a sudden has something to do with training records? I thought PRIA only had your training & checking records?
From faa.gov
PRIA requires that a hiring air carrier under 14 CFR parts 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, request, receive, and evaluate certain information concerning a pilot/applicant's training, experience, qualification, and safety background, before allowing that individual to begin service...
Or did I misunderstand, and you are talking about 2 different things?
From faa.gov
PRIA requires that a hiring air carrier under 14 CFR parts 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, request, receive, and evaluate certain information concerning a pilot/applicant's training, experience, qualification, and safety background, before allowing that individual to begin service...
Or did I misunderstand, and you are talking about 2 different things?
02-28-2019, 10:27 AM
#65
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Flowing to AA for people hired after 2011 is not guaranteed. It's not just subject to pria, but also how Envoy feels about you.
If you are hired after 2011, your flow to AA can be withheld by Envoy for any reason.
If you are hired after 2011, your flow to AA can be withheld by Envoy for any reason.
02-28-2019, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by moon
I don't think that is true.
After the 824 and PP are gone, The company is under no obligation to flow you if you are subject to any performance or behavioral concerns. The company decides what a performance and behavioral problem is. They are the prosecutor and the judge.
I'd also like to add that the flow is about to drop off big time in 10 months. Going from 29/month to 15/month overnight.
02-28-2019, 02:52 PM
#68
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Originally Posted by Varsity
It is 100% true. Read the contract.
After the 824 and PP are gone, The company is under no obligation to flow you if you are subject to any performance or behavioral concerns. The company decides what a performance and behavioral problem is. They are the prosecutor and the judge.
I'd also like to add that the flow is about to drop off big time in 10 months. Going from 29/month to 15/month overnight.
After the 824 and PP are gone, The company is under no obligation to flow you if you are subject to any performance or behavioral concerns. The company decides what a performance and behavioral problem is. They are the prosecutor and the judge.
I'd also like to add that the flow is about to drop off big time in 10 months. Going from 29/month to 15/month overnight.
Drops from 29 to 15, then picks up again after a while. I think it goes up to 20ish per month with the current pilot count.
02-28-2019, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
Only if you have active letters on your file, not about "concerns".
Drops from 29 to 15, then picks up again after a while. I think it goes up to 20ish per month with the current pilot count.
Drops from 29 to 15, then picks up again after a while. I think it goes up to 20ish per month with the current pilot count.
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