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04-25-2016, 01:18 PM
#2551
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
Less than two months ago you claimed envoy was flowing 360 in 2016. Do you still wonder why employees don't trust you?
Originally Posted by Cujo665
My best estimate for 2016 from their information is they will hire 750 next year. We get 375. They estimate 100-150 furloughs may return. That leaves a worst case next year of 225 flowing. This is 5 more than what's required to prevent stepping up above pay step 12. It also jives with their advertisement of at least 200 upgrades next year.
2017 should be another 375 to flow, but no more recalls; but I bet they will withhold to 30 each month - 360 for the year - and just have to catch up in the aggregate.
That's 600 of our CA's gone in two years by flow to AA. Doesn't include the guys going elsewhere.
It's fair to say we are on track for their 2.5/6 to be a really good estimate.
2017 should be another 375 to flow, but no more recalls; but I bet they will withhold to 30 each month - 360 for the year - and just have to catch up in the aggregate.
That's 600 of our CA's gone in two years by flow to AA. Doesn't include the guys going elsewhere.
It's fair to say we are on track for their 2.5/6 to be a really good estimate.
Why don't you ask those two why they have been lying?
04-25-2016, 01:33 PM
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Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
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Originally Posted by fisherman
What $$$ are you talking about?
New hire signing bonus associated with the extra bump for 121 time.
$5000 signing
Up to $10,000 additional with 121 experience ($10/hour 121)
Per company comm 1 March 16.
04-25-2016, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
What's a letter T pilot? Furlough recall?
Pilots returning to AA having deferred recall. They have to make a decision to return or not by early- to mid-May and notify AA of their decision.
04-25-2016, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
New hire signing bonus associated with the extra bump for 121 time.
$5000 signing
Up to $10,000 additional with 121 experience ($10/hour 121)
Per company comm 1 March 16.
$5000 signing
Up to $10,000 additional with 121 experience ($10/hour 121)
Per company comm 1 March 16.
04-25-2016, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
Retention bonus and even flow wouldn't entice me to come to Envoy.
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Last edited by RyanP; 04-25-2016 at 04:09 PM.
04-25-2016, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
New hire signing bonus associated with the extra bump for 121 time.
$5000 signing
Up to $10,000 additional with 121 experience ($10/hour 121)
Per company comm 1 March 16.
$5000 signing
Up to $10,000 additional with 121 experience ($10/hour 121)
Per company comm 1 March 16.
04-25-2016, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
Retention bonus and even flow wouldn't entice me to come to Envoy.
04-25-2016, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386
Mesa or Envoy. Either are like taking a poison pill. At Mesa at least you'll be building TPIC more quickly. At Envoy you'll be right seat for much longer in addition to likely being on property for 10 years or more before coming close to "flowing." New hires are required to keep the Ponzi scheme flow going. Right now they will tout they are getting 30 or better per month which is still slightly short of what they need. But it's temporary. By June the new hire classes will start to gradually dwindle down to 15 a month again.
Btw, I laugh when I think about your poor career decisions and then laugh harder when you come on here and try to give career advise to others. Hilarious!
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