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Old 04-25-2016 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700
The Letter T returnees were figured into the mathematical formula that got us to the 6 year flow. We already knew that this was going to happen. And they are likely to still flow a few each month anyway when they don't have to. It's a win for Envoy for sure as it keeps the flow right under 6 years.

Envoy is absolutely the place you want to go if you desire to work for AA.
Less than two months ago you claimed envoy was flowing 360 in 2016. Do you still wonder why employees don't trust you?
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Old 04-25-2016 | 12:06 PM
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35 new hires for April

31 DFW E175
4 ORD CRJ
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Old 04-25-2016 | 12:14 PM
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It's not the flow bringing them. We've had it for a while now.

It's the $$$.
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Old 04-25-2016 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
35 new hires for April

31 DFW E175
4 ORD CRJ
How many flowed total? 30?


Good Luck!
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Old 04-25-2016 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
It's not the flow bringing them. We've had it for a while now.

It's the $$$.
What $$$ are you talking about?
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Old 04-25-2016 | 12:37 PM
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What's a letter T pilot? Furlough recall?
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Old 04-25-2016 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
Less than two months ago you claimed envoy was flowing 360 in 2016. Do you still wonder why employees don't trust you?
Where do you keep getting this information from? I'm not sure about cr700 but the rest of us have been crystal clear with the numbers and projections from the beginning. In fact, here is a post by Cujo from November 2015:

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My best estimate for 2016 from their information is they will hire 750 next year. We get 375. They estimate 100-150 furloughs may return. That leaves a worst case next year of 225 flowing. This is 5 more than what's required to prevent stepping up above pay step 12. It also jives with their advertisement of at least 200 upgrades next year.

2017 should be another 375 to flow, but no more recalls; but I bet they will withhold to 30 each month - 360 for the year - and just have to catch up in the aggregate.

That's 600 of our CA's gone in two years by flow to AA. Doesn't include the guys going elsewhere.

It's fair to say we are on track for their 2.5/6 to be a really good estimate.
As you can see, he even states that worst case for 2016 would be 225 flows depending on the number of furloughed AA pilots who return. I've said the same thing. Nobody here is implying anything that is false. On the other hand, you have people like ag386 and eaglefly who have been claiming from the start that the flow will never work. They base their claims on X number of new hires in the past. But now we are getting 25+ new hires. May will be similar if not more from the numbers I saw. So their argument just sunk to the bottom of the sea.

Why don't you ask those two why they have been lying?
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Old 04-25-2016 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fisherman
What $$$ are you talking about?


New hire signing bonus associated with the extra bump for 121 time.

$5000 signing
Up to $10,000 additional with 121 experience ($10/hour 121)

Per company comm 1 March 16.
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Old 04-25-2016 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
What's a letter T pilot? Furlough recall?


Pilots returning to AA having deferred recall. They have to make a decision to return or not by early- to mid-May and notify AA of their decision.
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Old 04-25-2016 | 01:41 PM
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While the rest get shi+. That's why it .82 til it's dry.
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