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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Belizepilot
What no one realizes is what option does AA have if we all say no? This is exactly what will happen, nothing for 4-6 months and then come back with a better than last agreement. Everything is in our favor at this point. I really don't see how guys on property would actually take this, as it hardly does anything for FOs here among all 3 WHO's. But I suppose everyone will take the money and run.
We are still in the top of the 1st inning into this pilot shortage so better offers are going to keep coming anyway, might as well take the free money when you can. Nobody says this is the final LOA/MOU until the CBA is up. This offer won't staff the WOs and the next one won't either but take their money in the meantime.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
That is what happened with the FO retention bonus. All 3 MEC chairmen left a meeting saying that they would all vote no. Then, Envoy's chairmen stabbed the other two WO in the back and took it.
You arseholes stabbed the entire industry in the back first a few years ago. And now that AA is realizing the errors in their ways and willing to increase compensation, you jokers are jumping up and down screaming from the ceilings that their first offer is the best thing since sliced bread. Way to go, outstanding negotiating.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 06:34 PM
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I can't imagine how much management enjoys social media and this site. It's like having a front row seat, looking into the windows of the minds and motivations of their mentally challenged workforce.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 08:16 PM
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Good, let them see us say that this offer is nothing more than a recruiting tool. They made the offer for a new hire much nicer and then just threw some bread crumbs at the pilots already here to make it sound good.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Subpilot
Good, let them see us say that this offer is nothing more than a recruiting tool. They made the offer for a new hire much nicer and then just threw some bread crumbs at the pilots already here to make it sound good.
Where is the offer? I haven't seen anything from the company nor the union yet today.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LineUpAndPay
Where is the offer? I haven't seen anything from the company nor the union yet today.
It comes out tomorrow.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
It comes out tomorrow.
I wasn't expecting any news today since it was just stated to be presented to the mec today, they need time to process and write their own news blast etc. So to make a comment about it being breadcrumbs is odd.

Or is this a joke about it perpetually coming out tomorrow?
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Old 09-13-2016 | 08:46 PM
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I am going off of the PSA deal since we know that all three WO get the same treatment.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 08:53 PM
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Old 09-14-2016 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
Good luck getting hired off the street with a 1000 TPIC from Mesa at AA. AA new hire classes have only about 25-30% of the total as street hires, the rest of slots are from wholly owned's (averaging about 55-60% from Envoy). Yes it may take 6-9 years to flow, but it's nice to have that in your back pocket while your applying to DL, UA, and AA.

And PSA and PDT can only come over to AA with the flow, Envoy is able to use either method.
Your last sentence is completely false.
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