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Old 10-23-2012 | 08:43 AM
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The LXJT folks will get on board one way or the other....It's just a matter of how long it will take them to see the light and how much damage will be done while they act like tough guys....
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100% agree. They think they hold the cards, they got bought, Jerry isn't in idiot, they don't play ball...well I'm sure it's not going to be the happy ending they were hoping for.
So far we have been presented with nothing to 'play ball' with. We're not trying to be the tough guys, but we're not going to take concessions. I want the best for this merger, as does everyone else I fly with. Both sides have some total idiots who post on these forums (not naming any names). But the truth is that 95% of line pilots on both sides want to get this merger done and dusted and end up with the best for both sides.
Old 10-23-2012 | 09:05 AM
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So far we have been presented with nothing to 'play ball' with.
You haven't....but your elected reps have...They don't appear to want to "play ball"....Hope you don't find yourself in a [Mc]Pickle......
Old 10-23-2012 | 09:16 AM
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Many L-XJT pilots think their 145s are some sort of a golden goose. I have heard many say they are in no hurry to get a SLI done since L-ASA is losing 50s like crazy. I believe there will be a rude awakening for those with that ideology whenever the United TA is ratified
Old 10-23-2012 | 10:14 AM
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whats with all this bickering back in forth... who cares who got bought.. both sides "got bought" from what I remember.. as just a lowly line pilot I have seen nothing to "play ball" or "get on board" with. I only want whats best for both groups. Enough of this crap. Were all ExpressJet now right?
Old 10-23-2012 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 3stripes
So far we have been presented with nothing to 'play ball' with. We're not trying to be the tough guys, but we're not going to take concessions. I want the best for this merger, as does everyone else I fly with. Both sides have some total idiots who post on these forums (not naming any names). But the truth is that 95% of line pilots on both sides want to get this merger done and dusted and end up with the best for both sides.
thats the same consensus I consistently hear. Seems to be just a vocal few on here that want to stir things up. From both sides.
Old 10-23-2012 | 10:31 AM
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For those that think they are playing ball on the legacy xjt side, perhaps you haven't been to any union meetings...
Old 10-23-2012 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Red97Vette
For those that think they are playing ball on the legacy xjt side, perhaps you haven't been to any union meetings...
so what does "playing ball" consist of? Please enlighten us. I havent been to any union meetings. I always seem to be flying.. and when Im off Im off. Thats all I hear... get on board.. play ball.. etc etc. Nothing has been proposed to the pilot group.

Im all for getting things rolling in a good way. But as stated before I think if Inc. wants concessions it isn't going to happen. Were already under a concessionary contract as it is. Too bad we just cant take the best of both contracts. Tack on a 10-15% raise.. Ironclad PBS language (im figuring thats a huge sticking point).. Id vote for that. Im pretty sure most would.
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:01 AM
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Sounds like 9E up in here
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FSUpilot
Im all for getting things rolling in a good way. But as stated before I think if Inc. wants concessions it isn't going to happen. Were already under a concessionary contract as it is. Too bad we just cant take the best of both contracts. Tack on a 10-15% raise.. Ironclad PBS language (im figuring thats a huge sticking point).. Id vote for that. Im pretty sure most would.
Nobody including "Inc." is proposing concessions....However, your side is living in a fantasy world if it thinks you are going to get 10-15% raises out of these negotiations...That isn't "playing ball".

You might want to look around a little at the industry around you....
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FSUpilot
whats with all this bickering back in forth... who cares who got bought.. both sides "got bought" from what I remember.. as just a lowly line pilot I have seen nothing to "play ball" or "get on board" with. I only want whats best for both groups. Enough of this crap. Were all ExpressJet now right?
No we aren't "all ExpressJet now"....For now there are 2 separate MECs and pilot groups. When your side come's to it's senses, then and only then, will there be on pilot group....
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