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Old 10-23-2012 | 11:17 AM
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It's funny how LXJT's vocal minority's tone has changed in the last 3-4 months.
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:23 AM
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No we aren't "all ExpressJet now"....For now there are 2 separate MECs and pilot groups. When your side come's to it's senses, then and only then, will there be on pilot group....
Wow. Really.... really?
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
No we aren't "all ExpressJet now"....For now there are 2 separate MECs and pilot groups. When your side come's to it's senses, then and only then, will there be on pilot group....
That's the attitude we don't need....
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by crflyer
Wow. Really.... really?
Really...We just had a local election in ATL and our ballots were Atlantic Southeast ballots. We elected reps. that are members of the Atlantic Southeast MEC. There won't be a single XJT MEC until there is a JCBA and a single list.

Are the rest of your pilots this ignorant?
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FSUpilot
That's the attitude we don't need....
It's not an attitude...It's the truth. Sorry if you can't handle the truth that as of today, there is an ASA MEC and an XJT MEC. There is an ASA pilot group and an XJT pilot group. That will remain a fact until there is a JCBA and a single list.
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
It's not an attitude...It's the truth. Sorry if you can't handle the truth that as of today, there is an ASA MEC and an XJT MEC. There is an ASA pilot group and an XJT pilot group. That will remain a fact until there is a JCBA and a single list.
I know that's the way it is.. It's the constant bickering I can't stand. We are going to be one company.. Like it or not. Might as well try to work together and get along so we can get shiit done. That's the way I see it. Is there something wrong with that?
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FSUpilot
I know that's the way it is.. It's the constant bickering I can't stand. We are going to be one company.. Like it or not. Might as well try to work together and get along so we can get shiit done. That's the way I see it. Is there something wrong with that?
Most of us on the crj side feel the same way... personally, I have friends on both lists, so it would be nice to remain civil.
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
No we aren't "all ExpressJet now"....For now there are 2 separate MECs and pilot groups. When your side come's to it's senses, then and only then, will there be on pilot group....
Comes to its senses? Like allowing some ****ty PBS system that you guys are hell bent on?....and save the explanation Joe. We all know that you're unflexible on PrefBid because your QOL is soooooooo much better than what it was, McKnight is the devil, blah, blah, blah....$TFU.
Old 10-23-2012 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FSUpilot
where are the new pilots going to come from? ATP rule is already making it hard to find pilots. In the future the regionals will be the ones with a pilot shortage. not mainline.
There is no shortage. We've been able to fill classes thus far and more than likely continue to fill classes. Comair is a great source for pilots. I'm not denying a shortage, I'm saying it's not here right now.

Originally Posted by frascaflyer
Not allowed per the TPA.
Do you have proof or is this something you've heard? Link/source/PDF? There is a lot of language in many contracts, any way it can be worked around?

Originally Posted by 3stripes
So far we have been presented with nothing to 'play ball' with. We're not trying to be the tough guys, but we're not going to take concessions. I want the best for this merger, as does everyone else I fly with. Both sides have some total idiots who post on these forums (not naming any names). But the truth is that 95% of line pilots on both sides want to get this merger done and dusted and end up with the best for both sides.
They only people who've even dropped the word concessions is LXJT. I'm not for a concession and I believe many of our LASA guys will not accept cuts. Do I believe you'll receive the money back from your VOTED IN concessionary and MORE, absolutely not.

Originally Posted by Trip7
Many L-XJT pilots think their 145s are some sort of a golden goose. I have heard many say they are in no hurry to get a SLI done since L-ASA is losing 50s like crazy. I believe there will be a rude awakening for those with that ideology whenever the United TA is ratified
Some junior LXJT have voiced they were in no hurry because we were loosing 200's. They didn't want to be furlough protection. I agree the United TA will turn some heads. I believe JA will do more than that!

Originally Posted by FSUpilot
... who cares who got bought.. both sides "got bought" from what I remember..
I don't believe one person has mentioned the word "bought" or "buy" in the last three pages of this thread. We were simply talking about contract negotiation progress.


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Nobody including "Inc." is proposing concessions....However, your side is living in a fantasy world if it thinks you are going to get 10-15% raises out of these negotiations...That isn't "playing ball".

You might want to look around a little at the industry around you....
Agreed as stated above.
Old 10-23-2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
There is no shortage. We've been able to fill classes thus far and more than likely continue to fill classes. Comair is a great source for pilots. I'm not denying a shortage, I'm saying it's not here right now.



Do you have proof or is this something you've heard? Link/source/PDF? There is a lot of language in many contracts, any way it can be worked around?



They only people who've even dropped the word concessions is LXJT. I'm not for a concession and I believe many of our LASA guys will not accept cuts. Do I believe you'll receive the money back from your VOTED IN concessionary and MORE, absolutely not.



Some junior LXJT have voiced they were in no hurry because we were loosing 200's. They didn't want to be furlough protection. I agree the United TA will turn some heads. I believe JA will do more than that!



I don't believe one person has mentioned the word "bought" or "buy" in the last three pages of this thread. We were simply talking about contract negotiation progress.




Agreed as stated above.
the regional pilot shortage will be here before you know it... thats what I was referring to.

as far as someone mentioning being "bought"... not that it matters but check two pages back at the bottom of the page.
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