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Old 07-01-2013 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 701EV
No dual qual!!!!
While there are some major issues to be ironed out, I can think of about 650 Atl based 200 drivers that would give this serious consideration when compared to what, I believe, will be the consequences of the new FT/DT regs.
Old 07-01-2013 | 08:22 PM
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FWIW, many years ago Delta had a no-kidding dual qual program, e.g. a 727 S/O also current (barely) as a DC-9 F/O or a L-1011 F/O also current as a DC-9 CA. As you might imagine, safety concerns arose, and the program was eventually abandoned.
Old 07-02-2013 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
Remember the "doom and gloom" guys that come out of the woodwork every time something new is looked at? Said the same thing about PBS. The only thing that slowed the need for pilots was superficial, not internal. In fact most pilots at ASA today like the PBS system far better than the line bidding process.

Probably not much change in number of crews needed with the new 117 rules. The numbers needed to offset the new rules is fairly significant. However, it should mean less reserves because more people can get completed and one reserve can work anywhere in the system they are needed. With the upcoming flushing of the regionals, reserve should be be fairly short. It will be even shorter for the CRJ side than ERJ with this.
Is that why the company recently asked the union to increase reserve staffing? Hate to be one of those doom and gloom guys, but experience with this company is my guide. They are totally unprepared for the new work rules, are hoping for dual qual as a band aid, and will grossly increase reserves either way to cover for scheduling's incompetence and inability to comply with the new rules.
Old 07-02-2013 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Is that why the company recently asked the union to increase reserve staffing? Hate to be one of those doom and gloom guys, but experience with this company is my guide. They are totally unprepared for the new work rules, are hoping for dual qual as a band aid, and will grossly increase reserves either way to cover for scheduling's incompetence and inability to comply with the new rules.

It's true. They are barely hanging on with the minimal rules we currently have. Scheduling people for 17hour days and 4 hour overnights. It's happened to me. If the company is having trouble with the current crap rules I feel the transition to the very restrictive new rules will be a Sh*$ Show at the very least.

It's a HUGE difference. Not so much for the majors and legacies. But for the regional carriers, being able to abuse and bank on a certain percentage of the crewmembers not even knowing their own legalities and regulations is their bread and butter.

I see a lot of fines and lost revenue coming.
Old 07-02-2013 | 10:38 AM
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According to latest "what's goin on in July", 1 CRJ and 2 ERJ classes every month for rest of 2013.

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Old 07-02-2013 | 11:25 AM
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Any word on classes at the beginning of 2014? I'm expecting to have ATP mins right around the New Year.
Old 07-02-2013 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by coryk
Any word on classes at the beginning of 2014? I'm expecting to have ATP mins right around the New Year.
They didn't specify in the blurb that's available to all XJT employees. I'm sure they'll worry about that as the Fall approaches and a number of hurdles are behind them (JCBA being the big one), block hours and attrition.

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Old 07-02-2013 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Is that why the company recently asked the union to increase reserve staffing? Hate to be one of those doom and gloom guys, but experience with this company is my guide. They are totally unprepared for the new work rules, are hoping for dual qual as a band aid, and will grossly increase reserves either way to cover for scheduling's incompetence and inability to comply with the new rules.
Unless they improve the QOL of reserves drastically, there is no way people will vote to increase reserves. I hope the union follows the same opinion.
Old 07-02-2013 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
It's true. They are barely hanging on with the minimal rules we currently have. Scheduling people for 17hour days and 4 hour overnights. It's happened to me. If the company is having trouble with the current crap rules I feel the transition to the very restrictive new rules will be a Sh*$ Show at the very least.

It's a HUGE difference. Not so much for the majors and legacies. But for the regional carriers, being able to abuse and bank on a certain percentage of the crewmembers not even knowing their own legalities and regulations is their bread and butter.

I see a lot of fines and lost revenue coming.
Perhaps you should start by understanding what your rights are. Evidential you don't.

We all know the 50 seat CRJ is going to the desert sooner rather than later. The company is looking for ways to be flexible as this occurs. They can flex that additional savings right into my wallet.
Old 07-02-2013 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
Perhaps you should start by understanding what your rights are. Evidential you don't.
Read my post a few times and try real hard to understand what I'm saying. Go ahead. Try it. Try a little more. Ok. You get it now? Goodjob.
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