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07-21-2013 | 02:36 PM
#3651
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Actually no. Lots of airlines don't match the FA's with pilots for an entire pairing. Sure a few may. But, to really get the benefits of dual qual in FTDT (besides the company saving on training costs and operating costs from having a CRJ pilot that can fly all 3 during these IROPS) you have to make pairings that have a mixture to keep the number of legs per day down. More legs = less available duty = need more pilots to fly the allotted flying. They will attempt to mix them in the most efficient way to reduce the number of pilots they have to have on the roster.
FTDT really changes the game here. Before FTDT I would agree 100%.
FTDT really changes the game here. Before FTDT I would agree 100%.
07-21-2013 | 02:37 PM
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From: EMB 145 CPT
I would assume that the dual qual would still generate 200 trips and 700/900 trips correct? Flights attendants throw a wrench in the works. If this is the case, junior people would only be able to hold 200 as senior will scoop up 700/900 out of the pot. Add the new rest rules and it looks like junior means crappy pay and QOL.
07-21-2013 | 03:03 PM
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I understand but the 135 and 145 only need one FA. The 200 uses one and the 700/900 use two. I think it would be so far over our schedulers heads to create trips that separate pilots and FAs. Our company has tried it before and failed.
07-21-2013 | 03:28 PM
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07-21-2013 | 03:39 PM
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Guys... Dual qual isn't rocket science. Many airlines do this everyday (i.e.Skywest, PSA, Delta etc). They have it figured out. FAs already work both.
This will suck for reserves in the short term, but if you've looked at the new rules, there isn't much they can really abuse them with.
This will suck for reserves in the short term, but if you've looked at the new rules, there isn't much they can really abuse them with.
07-21-2013 | 04:21 PM
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So... Where is the TA? It's Sunday!
07-21-2013 | 04:45 PM
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From: Retired Mil...ready to start the grind
07-21-2013 | 05:20 PM
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From: EMB 145 CPT
I understand but the 135 and 145 only need one FA. The 200 uses one and the 700/900 use two. I think it would be so far over our schedulers heads to create trips that separate pilots and FAs. Our company has tried it before and failed.
07-21-2013 | 07:51 PM
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So not to draw this out, where I was going with all this is that obviously it can be done. What will be interesting is to see it unfold between our incompetent management and our daily mess of an operation. Its not that its complex, its that its another moving part to our operation when we are already behind the ball. We've seen it done before with a grinding halt outcome.
07-21-2013 | 08:06 PM
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Is the bid for the new bases, specifically DEN and MCI out? If it is out, how senior is it on the f/o side?
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