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Old 07-24-2013 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D
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Maybe so but we still have what? Seven years left on the current CPA for 50 seat flying. I'll ride this contract out for seven years. Oh, and if they take the planes guess what! We go with them. I can live on SKY pay. They would be forced to welcome allot of big northeast union guys.

We would have a union there within one year of bring us and are planes over. Not what they want!

Lets face it its just one big cluster and the only way this company is gonna get concessions is from closing down Atlanta A-Teck and making us one big happy family. Its gonna happen but they want to do it on their terms. Well maybe they need a Little shove.

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Old 07-24-2013 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Lets face it its just one big cluster and the only way this company is gonna get concessions is from closing down Atlanta A-Teck and making us one big happy family. Its gonna happen but they want to do it on their terms. Well maybe they need a Little shove.
As long as JA is CEO and President of the BOD, he will never combine ASA/XJT with SKW. Forget it, end of story. He will do everything possible to isolate the airline he has spent 40 years building from the ground up at any cost, even at the expense of ASA/XJT. The negotiating is all posturing. No matter what is ever agreed upon, the final result will always be to shrink ASA/XJT out of existence and to maintain SKW.

May as well just say no and get full pay to the last day, and stop the bleeding.
Old 07-24-2013 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
As long as JA is CEO and President of the BOD, he will never combine ASA/XJT with SKW. Forget it, end of story. He will do everything possible to isolate the airline he has spent 40 years building from the ground up at any cost, even at the expense of ASA/XJT. The negotiating is all posturing. No matter what is ever agreed upon, the final result will always be to shrink ASA/XJT out of existence and to maintain SKW.

May as well just say no and get full pay to the last day, and stop the bleeding.
That's what you are hoping for, no doubt. That way we shrink and you can personally benefit from some sort of flying shuffle. That's cute. Only problem with that is that the Delta rate reset will affect EVERYONE within Inc's house. Including you guys, over at Skywest Airlines. I hate to break it to you, but you are not immune to the woes of the industry because JA loves you so much.
Old 07-24-2013 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JumpersAway79
That's what you are hoping for, no doubt. That way we shrink and you can personally benefit from some sort of flying shuffle. That's cute. Only problem with that is that the Delta rate reset will affect EVERYONE within Inc's house. Including you guys, over at Skywest Airlines. I hate to break it to you, but you are not immune to the woes of the industry because JA loves you so much.
That was not what I said. But now that you mention it, XJT/ASA will feel the squeeze of the industry long before SKW will. Its not that SKW is immune to it, but they will avoid it longer than anyone else can.
Old 07-24-2013 | 08:48 AM
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“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
I don't think using John Galt to promote a union stance is exactly what Rand had in mind...
Old 07-24-2013 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorhater
I don't think using John Galt to promote a union stance is exactly what Rand had in mind...
True. My point was that I can find other jobs. I'm not taking a concession just to keep this job. I'm not worth less today than I was yesterday. either way. Darn good book.
Old 07-24-2013 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
My sources tell me that a most of what the company is going after is in the L-XJT contract, not so much the L-ASA contract... and I still say KMA!

XJT "Management", right your ship before you ask to climb aboard ours!!! When I see one of the duplicate sets of management eliminated (ATL, or SGU) and serious improvements in scheduling efficiency, THEN we'll talk!
Thank you!!!

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Didn't the LXJT group just cut a side deal for rate plus 2 bucks for larger aircraft? Now, they want concessions?

It just doesn't add up.
This went to arbitration. And that's what the arbitrator decided.
Old 07-24-2013 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 66Vtails
True. My point was that I can find other jobs. I'm not taking a concession just to keep this job. I'm not worth less today than I was yesterday. either way. Darn good book.
ASIG seems to always have new people maybe we should go there.

Great book I'm in the middle of my second time through.
Old 07-25-2013 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorhater
ASIG seems to always have new people maybe we should go there.

Great book I'm in the middle of my second time through.
Serious question: Do the movies do the book justice?
Old 07-25-2013 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by makersmarc
Serious question: Do the movies do the book justice?
Not even close
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