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06-13-2013 | 02:10 PM
#3231
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From: Catching breathe
This is exactly why first year pay will never go up. Someones always "gotta get theirs".
06-13-2013 | 05:14 PM
#3232
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From: EMB 145 CPT
Any news on the contract? I have been hearing that the union is going to cave on dual qual. This after " it was not safe" stance. Also with the new rest rules we are going to have to work an extra 2 days per month to maintain productivity with 5 day trips. Top that off with people quitting or not showing up for class after being hired. There is only a few people in the applicant pool. The reserve list is always depleted. A lot of people are now looking elsewhere to get out of here. But yet CT thinks its all good. G.O won't be saying that anymore in the next few years....
They need 51% once it gets past the MECs and it really is a math problem to them. The people they can scare into voting yes with doom and gloom, the lifers who just want a job for a few more years, and the people who can't be bothered because they are on the way out are not going to help our chances.
06-13-2013 | 05:32 PM
#3233
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From: Airbus
He didn't misunderstand, he's saying why would the company hire them at $35 an hour when they could take someone without that "18 months 121" and pay them ten dollars less.
06-13-2013 | 05:47 PM
#3234
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I was told this isn't an option. The company has the XJT arbitration in hand and is beating us over the head with it. We're looking at a blended rate. For three times as much work. Look up the arbitrated 76 seat pay on the XJT side. Add a buck or two.
06-13-2013 | 06:02 PM
#3235
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I will probably vote no if this makes it to the TA, but it's not "three times as much work."
06-13-2013 | 06:09 PM
#3236
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From: French-Canadian
You guys better hurry up and get your deal inked before Eagle ALPA manages to screw the pooch with the extra concessions being asked by the new management putting us in line with Pinnacle.
06-13-2013 | 06:12 PM
#3237
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Really? Flying the 200 alone is three times as much work as the 700/900. And now you will have to memorize 3 sets of limitations for every checkride. Not to mention all the jacked up systems and procedures in the 200 we'll all have to re learn and be tested on.
06-13-2013 | 07:02 PM
#3238
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From: 737 Left
I endured first year pay, just like everyone else, and like everyone else, I shouldn't have had to. If I ever have to go somewhere else, it won't be a regional airline because I won't go back to that pay scale again. If I went back to engineering, I could again make six figures and be home every day. I would hate it, but I could do it. It is discraceful, bordering on criminal, that I would have to go back to 20k/yr 1st year pay if I got a job as a pilot at another regional airline. AND, it cost me LESS to become an engineer, professionally licensed in multiple states! You really think that's ok just because you had to do it?
My mama always said to treat people the way I wanted to be treated, not the way I was treated. I think I was in kindergarten or something when I learned that. It was a good lesson.
06-13-2013 | 07:07 PM
#3239
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From: 737 Left
I don't see it passing like that.
06-14-2013 | 03:02 AM
#3240
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The only way to secure my vote is to receive my concession back and a pay rate adjusted for COL'ing. Anything less is flat out no! Go find someone to fly, oh my bad there is no one left willing to do this. Got you now!
Guys realize this perfect storm will never happen in our lifetime ever again, lets stick it to them or they can close the doors for all I care. Everyone is hiring and willing to pay what were worth e.g. UAL, Delta etc...my ATP comes with a price attached and its called, livable wage +
Guys realize this perfect storm will never happen in our lifetime ever again, lets stick it to them or they can close the doors for all I care. Everyone is hiring and willing to pay what were worth e.g. UAL, Delta etc...my ATP comes with a price attached and its called, livable wage +
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