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06-13-2013 | 10:57 AM
#3221
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I was told by a union insider that dual qual is a done deal, the only question is the pay. And from what I was told about what's being talked about at the table, pilots currently on the 700/900 are going to get hosed. Company wants pay banding (seniority%) like in the XJT arbitration award. Union wants to "settle" for a SKW type override. Either one will force current 700 pilots to take a pay cut. Automatic TA fail, IMO.
06-13-2013 | 12:18 PM
#3222
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From: e190
They need 51% once it gets past the MECs and it really is a math problem to them. The people they can scare into voting yes with doom and gloom, the lifers who just want a job for a few more years, and the people who can't be bothered because they are on the way out are not going to help our chances.
06-13-2013 | 12:36 PM
#3223
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From: 737 Left
Personally, I hope we never see dual qual. I know, it's coming, but I would prefer not.
I would like to see first year pay at $35 bucks an hour. I would also like to see former 121 guys with a minimum of 18 months experience start at year 2 pay.
06-13-2013 | 12:53 PM
#3224
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Forgive my ignorance on this subject but when you say dual qual are we talking ERJ/CRJ or 200/700/900.
Good luck. Hopefully you guys can do better than we did.
Good luck. Hopefully you guys can do better than we did.
06-13-2013 | 01:22 PM
#3226
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Dual qual is a term that is frequently used incorrectly. Dual qual ERJ/CRJ isn't on the table. Common category for CRJ-200 and CRJ-700/900 is being discussed. Currently the 200 is a separate crew category despite all variants being under the same type rating.
06-13-2013 | 01:24 PM
#3227
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You want to make it harder for experienced guys to get hired? Make them more expensive and you'll incentivize the hiring department to find candidates with less than 18 months 121 experience.
06-13-2013 | 01:53 PM
#3228
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I think you misunderstood. I said if you already have 18 months of 121 experience (as in former Comair guys) then you start at year 2 pay. That we we attract a higher caliber of candidates.
06-13-2013 | 01:56 PM
#3229
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From: EMB 145 FO
ZERO incentives like that unless I get a check for the difference. They want to offer a hiring bonus? Fine, but cut a check to every pilot on the seniority list too. Sorry but that's how it goes, I stuck out first year just like every other guy.
06-13-2013 | 02:09 PM
#3230
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From: French-Canadian
You almost nailed it, but remember that both airplanes are under the same category but are different types. The CL-65 type rating covers all CRJs.
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