What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
07-23-2013 | 01:46 PM
#3711
Underpaid...
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,101
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From: French-Canadian
So for those that thought the whole hold up was a bidding system, here ya go! Management was waiting for concession talks to start elsewhere and then trow you in the pool. Welcome to the club, the SKW boys better not get to comfy because they will get their very soon. SKW inc has to park well over 200 aircraft in the next 2 1/2 years for United and Delta to comply with SCOPE, the pilots aren't there to replace the mainline attrition so shrinkage is inevitable. Stand your ground!
07-23-2013 | 02:30 PM
#3712
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 74
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From: sitting down facing forward
If management can't compete without concessions than they need to shut the place down. It will take at least two years to wind down and we'll all have jobs by then. If their cost structure is that bad, no amount of concessions will save this place anyhow. Ask Comair.
Shut it down. Max pay to the last day.
Shut it down. Max pay to the last day.
07-23-2013 | 03:05 PM
#3713
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
From: A320
if management wants concessions then we can start with acey days, aceypalooza, mini indy, new IT platforms every 3 months, people at the Atech who actually pick up their phones when you have a problem, turkey coupons, among friends newsletters, double management teams, surejet fiascos, "focus groups", premium pay and vacation buybacks every summer and anything related to our lack of a crew utilization department.
All they are doing is wringing a bar towel out for every last drop it can. Get a concessionary contract voted in before a pilot shortage and mass attrition so whoever comes to work here (or who is stupid enough to stay) have to deal with being away from home 17-19 days a month while making less than a fast food shift manager. Time to just say enough's enough
All they are doing is wringing a bar towel out for every last drop it can. Get a concessionary contract voted in before a pilot shortage and mass attrition so whoever comes to work here (or who is stupid enough to stay) have to deal with being away from home 17-19 days a month while making less than a fast food shift manager. Time to just say enough's enough
07-23-2013 | 04:18 PM
#3714
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 622
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From: PNF
if management wants concessions then we can start with acey days, aceypalooza, mini indy, new IT platforms every 3 months, people at the Atech who actually pick up their phones when you have a problem, turkey coupons, among friends newsletters, double management teams, surejet fiascos, "focus groups", premium pay and vacation buybacks every summer and anything related to our lack of a crew utilization department.
All they are doing is wringing a bar towel out for every last drop it can. Get a concessionary contract voted in before a pilot shortage and mass attrition so whoever comes to work here (or who is stupid enough to stay) have to deal with being away from home 17-19 days a month while making less than a fast food shift manager. Time to just say enough's enough
All they are doing is wringing a bar towel out for every last drop it can. Get a concessionary contract voted in before a pilot shortage and mass attrition so whoever comes to work here (or who is stupid enough to stay) have to deal with being away from home 17-19 days a month while making less than a fast food shift manager. Time to just say enough's enough
07-23-2013 | 04:19 PM
#3715
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 314
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I see it's all starting to sink in now. Good, glad you guys are finally getting it.
07-23-2013 | 04:55 PM
#3716
Banned
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,929
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From: A-320
It's awesome that both the ASA/XJT guys are coming together and putting an end to something Pinnacle guys so willingly accepted. I believe with Eagles "no thanks" and XJT (I believe they have had enough) "No" there will hopefully be a turning point in the regional industry
07-23-2013 | 05:20 PM
#3717
Banned
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,934
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From: EMB 145 CPT
Fine. Compare Southwest to anyone you want. Point is, you can pay your employees commensurate with their qualifications and experience AND make money. A fair, livable wage and profitability are not mutually exclusive. As soon as we can ALL tell management to look in the mirror next time they want to cut costs, the better off we will be. I, for one, am tired of watching this company fart away stupid amounts of money through mindless inefficiency and then they tell me I am the reason we aren't cost competitive. Just makes my blood boil.
07-23-2013 | 05:30 PM
#3718
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 133
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It's awesome that both the ASA/XJT guys are coming together and putting an end to something Pinnacle guys so willingly accepted. I believe with Eagles "no thanks" and XJT (I believe they have had enough) "No" there will hopefully be a turning point in the regional industry
07-23-2013 | 05:50 PM
#3719
Still an FO
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 27
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From: 757/767 FO
It's gonna get ugly and we are all probably gonna see some flying transferred and maybe even some jobs lost. In the end it does us no good to give up and agree to concessions. Stand together and suck it up. It will be worth it.
“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
07-23-2013 | 05:59 PM
#3720
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 74
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From: sitting down facing forward
It's gonna get ugly and we are all probably gonna see some flying transferred and maybe even some jobs lost. In the end it does us no good to give up and agree to concessions. Stand together and suck it up. It will be worth it.
“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
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