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04-01-2014 | 10:00 AM
#5501
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From: EMB 145 CPT
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Ok cool. But can anyone provide me with some actual feedback abou what's going on there? There's a lot of inside talk I don't understand in this thread.
2nd. There are rumors some of us on active duty may be allowed to VSP, so I may be entering the job hunt soon. I agree about the inside talk, and I've read on other threads that management seems to be using every opportunity to punish the pilots for the no vote on the TA. Would current XJT pilots advise looking at other regionals right now?
Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Ok cool. But can anyone provide me with some actual feedback abou what's going on there? There's a lot of inside talk I don't understand in this thread.
2nd. There are rumors some of us on active duty may be allowed to VSP, so I may be entering the job hunt soon. I agree about the inside talk, and I've read on other threads that management seems to be using every opportunity to punish the pilots for the no vote on the TA. Would current XJT pilots advise looking at other regionals right now?
04-01-2014 | 01:37 PM
#5502
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Punish? No, they don't have to. It's more subtle. Their immoral whipsaw business plan is in place. It does the "punishing" while middle management keeps their hands clean. For right now, we have the static fleet plan they threatened us with if we voted no. That means that no aircraft are renewed when their lease and or CPA they belong to expire. Their "punishment" strategy is passive aggressive like that. They try to lull the pilots into thinking that it is what it is and they can claim plausible denial. When in fact it's all part of Inc's sinister plan. They are probably waiting for the pain of a shrinking fleet before they think about coming back again and try for concessions again.
04-01-2014 | 05:23 PM
#5503
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Are you going on a whim with this statement? From my personal experiences face to face with said MEC chairman one would feel the opposite of what you have stated above. He was in full force selling the last TA to the point of absolute frustration when his attempt to influence my vote in favor had failed. He was truly convinced that the doors would close overnight pending a rejected TA. He said you will "NEVER" have a better offer if this is sent back. His words - not mine.
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04-01-2014 | 05:39 PM
#5504
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From: Delta Gear Slinger
Are you going on a whim with this statement? From my personal experiences face to face with said MEC chairman one would feel the opposite of what you have stated above. He was in full force selling the last TA to the point of absolute frustration when his attempt to influence my vote in favor had failed. He was truly convinced that the doors would close overnight pending a rejected TA. He said you will "NEVER" have a better offer if this is sent back. His words - not mine.
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04-01-2014 | 05:51 PM
#5505
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From: May I swing the gear Von Admiral?
And thats the problem what are we supposed to believe out of him? The guy basically never fly's the line and I'd hope that he's being sincere in admitting now that it was crap. Maybe enough line guys told him how bad things have gotten that he has finally seen the light. On the other hand maybe he's playing us all for personal gain. I'll let you know in about five years from now how it all works out.
04-01-2014 | 06:50 PM
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I don't doubt that is the experience you had. I'm just wondering if he is full of crap or has something to gain by serving the lip service.
04-01-2014 | 07:03 PM
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From: Delta Gear Slinger
That was the only time I've talked to him aside from training events, so I'm nervous to hear that you had the exact opposite impression.
04-01-2014 | 08:29 PM
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From: EMB 145 CPT
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
I don't doubt that is the experience you had. I'm just wondering if he is full of crap or has something to gain by serving the lip service.
That was the only time I've talked to him aside from training events, so I'm nervous to hear that you had the exact opposite impression.
Originally Posted by afterburn81
I don't doubt that is the experience you had. I'm just wondering if he is full of crap or has something to gain by serving the lip service.
That was the only time I've talked to him aside from training events, so I'm nervous to hear that you had the exact opposite impression.
04-02-2014 | 03:07 AM
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Are you going on a whim with this statement? From my personal experiences face to face with said MEC chairman one would feel the opposite of what you have stated above. He was in full force selling the last TA to the point of absolute frustration when his attempt to influence my vote in favor had failed. He was truly convinced that the doors would close overnight pending a rejected TA. He said you will "NEVER" have a better offer if this is sent back. His words - not mine.
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