Frontier Hiring.
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The same thing could be said about Spirit as a standalone airline, however, they are starting to step on each other's toes a bit. The growth of each is starting to cause more overlap and competition on a few routes. Frontier gives Spirit an instant presence in the West and more A/C orders. Franke says he sees more consolidation among LCCs in the U.S., and he likely has the power to make it happen. Among remaining LCCs (Frontier, Spirit, JetBlue, and Allegiant), this union seems to be a no-brainer. If it happens, it'll be a bad deal for contract prospects on both sides. The SLI SEEMS like it would be fairly straightforward...both ALPA, same A/C, similar career expectations...but management would probably be able to stall long enough to negotiate a deal at a more favorable time for them, and get a couple more years of discounted labor in the meantime.
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The same thing could be said about Spirit as a standalone airline, however, they are starting to step on each other's toes a bit. The growth of each is starting to cause more overlap and competition on a few routes. Frontier gives Spirit an instant presence in the West and more A/C orders. Franke says he sees more consolidation among LCCs in the U.S., and he likely has the power to make it happen. Among remaining LCCs (Frontier, Spirit, JetBlue, and Allegiant), this union seems to be a no-brainer. If it happens, it'll be a bad deal for contract prospects on both sides. The SLI SEEMS like it would be fairly straightforward...both ALPA, same A/C, similar career expectations...but management would probably be able to stall long enough to negotiate a deal at a more favorable time for them, and get a couple more years of discounted labor in the meantime.
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Speaking from prior experience, a merger would be very bad for us in terms of getting a new contract. At my prior airline, while in negotiations, the parent company bought 2 other airlines. We operated under our crappy old contract until there was a new joint CBA negotiated. This added several years to the process.
We do not want to go down that path. We need a contract before any sort of merger with Spirit or another carrier not paying legacy wages.
We do not want to go down that path. We need a contract before any sort of merger with Spirit or another carrier not paying legacy wages.
#7165
Speaking from prior experience, a merger would be very bad for us in terms of getting a new contract. At my prior airline, while in negotiations, the parent company bought 2 other airlines. We operated under our crappy old contract until there was a new joint CBA negotiated. This added several years to the process.
We do not want to go down that path. We need a contract before any sort of merger with Spirit or another carrier not paying legacy wages.
We do not want to go down that path. We need a contract before any sort of merger with Spirit or another carrier not paying legacy wages.
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I personally think any merger is a ways down the road. There is no real reason to merge Frontier and spirit right now. Both are profitable and growing organically.
I believe we will merge someday, maybe during the next recession, but not in the next few years. There hasn't even been any progress on the IPO yet
I believe we will merge someday, maybe during the next recession, but not in the next few years. There hasn't even been any progress on the IPO yet
#7168
I personally think any merger is a ways down the road. There is no real reason to merge Frontier and spirit right now. Both are profitable and growing organically.
I believe we will merge someday, maybe during the next recession, but not in the next few years. There hasn't even been any progress on the IPO yet
I believe we will merge someday, maybe during the next recession, but not in the next few years. There hasn't even been any progress on the IPO yet
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They will continue to pocket what they make with each delivery this year, then when deliveries slow down I think they will look seriously at an IPO. Bet talk will start early 18 again. Just my 2 cents.
Wish we were sold yesterday but I bet the asking price got ridiculous after the Virgin sale.
Wish we were sold yesterday but I bet the asking price got ridiculous after the Virgin sale.
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