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Old 03-07-2017 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
The same thing could be said about Spirit as a standalone airline, however, they are starting to step on each other's toes a bit. The growth of each is starting to cause more overlap and competition on a few routes. Frontier gives Spirit an instant presence in the West and more A/C orders. Franke says he sees more consolidation among LCCs in the U.S., and he likely has the power to make it happen. Among remaining LCCs (Frontier, Spirit, JetBlue, and Allegiant), this union seems to be a no-brainer. If it happens, it'll be a bad deal for contract prospects on both sides. The SLI SEEMS like it would be fairly straightforward...both ALPA, same A/C, similar career expectations...but management would probably be able to stall long enough to negotiate a deal at a more favorable time for them, and get a couple more years of discounted labor in the meantime.
Do you guys have a timeline for the IPO?
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Old 03-07-2017 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SkywardAZ
Do you guys have a timeline for the IPO?
Franke knows. We don't know anything.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
The same thing could be said about Spirit as a standalone airline, however, they are starting to step on each other's toes a bit. The growth of each is starting to cause more overlap and competition on a few routes. Frontier gives Spirit an instant presence in the West and more A/C orders. Franke says he sees more consolidation among LCCs in the U.S., and he likely has the power to make it happen. Among remaining LCCs (Frontier, Spirit, JetBlue, and Allegiant), this union seems to be a no-brainer. If it happens, it'll be a bad deal for contract prospects on both sides. The SLI SEEMS like it would be fairly straightforward...both ALPA, same A/C, similar career expectations...but management would probably be able to stall long enough to negotiate a deal at a more favorable time for them, and get a couple more years of discounted labor in the meantime.
I thought I read somewhere that any time an airline merger occurs two ALPA carriers, it generates an automatic renegotiation of sorts...I'll have to try and find that language but if anyone else knows...
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Old 03-08-2017 | 12:08 PM
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Speaking from prior experience, a merger would be very bad for us in terms of getting a new contract. At my prior airline, while in negotiations, the parent company bought 2 other airlines. We operated under our crappy old contract until there was a new joint CBA negotiated. This added several years to the process.
We do not want to go down that path. We need a contract before any sort of merger with Spirit or another carrier not paying legacy wages.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Windsor
Speaking from prior experience, a merger would be very bad for us in terms of getting a new contract. At my prior airline, while in negotiations, the parent company bought 2 other airlines. We operated under our crappy old contract until there was a new joint CBA negotiated. This added several years to the process.
We do not want to go down that path. We need a contract before any sort of merger with Spirit or another carrier not paying legacy wages.
I agree with that.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 04:01 PM
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I personally think any merger is a ways down the road. There is no real reason to merge Frontier and spirit right now. Both are profitable and growing organically.

I believe we will merge someday, maybe during the next recession, but not in the next few years. There hasn't even been any progress on the IPO yet
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Old 03-08-2017 | 04:28 PM
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Is anybody else interviewing on the 14?
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Old 03-08-2017 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I personally think any merger is a ways down the road. There is no real reason to merge Frontier and spirit right now. Both are profitable and growing organically.

I believe we will merge someday, maybe during the next recession, but not in the next few years. There hasn't even been any progress on the IPO yet
Yeah, I agree.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 06:40 PM
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Frontier Airlines adds new nonstop flights from Dulles | WTOP
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Old 03-08-2017 | 06:44 PM
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They will continue to pocket what they make with each delivery this year, then when deliveries slow down I think they will look seriously at an IPO. Bet talk will start early 18 again. Just my 2 cents.

Wish we were sold yesterday but I bet the asking price got ridiculous after the Virgin sale.
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