Originally Posted by Trowserchilli

One of the most discerning points came out in the company release/email today.

"Possible future employee incentive plans; or"

What does that mean? It's lumped in with the quiet period conditions. Negotiations over?

To take a line out of "MissedApproaches" playbook, it's PATHETIC.

Originally Posted by dracir1

Let me clarify as it seems some have misunderstood my thoughts...

The lanyards, info strikes, changes in colors of ties (like SW did), etc. are all IMPORTANT to the PILOTS and the UNION. I agree, it is good to show solidarity and to be as much of one accord as possible. These little outward signs are what show ourselves and the rest of the world that we are united for our cause.

As far as their impact on the Company, I would put lanyard color at 0%. If I were CEO, I could care less what the pilots did, wore, etc. as long as they continued to act in accordance w/ the contract AND that the bottom line didn't suffer. We could have pink and purple checkerd lanyards with camoflauge colored lettering and that wouldn't move the needle one bit as long as flights continue to go from here to there.

So, while we are info picketing, they will be going about business as usual. If/when we walk out of cockpits and ACTUALLY picket, then there will be some moving with a purpose w/ in the GO. This company operates with one of the largest profit margins in the industry and will still make money (albeit a little less) w/ two engine taxi use, if we don't pick up open time, etc. I would surmise that there would need to be somewhere in the ballpark of a 90% completion rate of all scheduled flights (ie. 10% of flights cancelled) per day for the company to "break even." Hell, for all I know, that # might be less. Right now, the highest rates of cancelled flights industry wide range in the 2.5 - 3.0% range. Of course, every cent counts but losing .05% due to increased fuel used because of two engine taxi or cancelling 2-3 flights per day because no one picked up open time and all the reserves were used isn't going to create a difference large enough to renegotiate our labor contract.

As I mentioned, I will do what the union asks to my best ability but I would be EXTREMELY surprised if some industry leading TA appeared prior to our self-help.

Originally Posted by Trowserchilli

Read page 94 of the SEC filing.
According to that, everything with hiring is going just fine.
We have 10 applicants for every 1 pilot hired.


https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...d366312ds1.htm

Originally Posted by motorboatin

To think that we have line pilots volunteering their time at job fairs and interviewing new hire candidates is appalling. Tell these people to stand the F down. They are hurting our cause. Let the illustrious chief pilots handle that shiiite. They're the ones compensated for it, and if you're volunteering, you're nothing but a chump giving the bird to your line flying peers. Finally some REAL transparency in the SEC filing. If you're a Frontier pilot and not offended, there's something wrong with your comprehension. Claims of challenging business conditions have been squashed and it's quite clear that mgmt simply decided to not bargain in good faith. Stand up and show up on April 19th.

Originally Posted by Missed Appch

I couldn't agree more.

Originally Posted by SFA320

There was a recruiter in my recurrent ground school. There were a couple of guys asking him why I'm he did it for free. He laughed and said,"he would never do it for free, we are paid to recruit." According to him it changed almost three years ago.

Originally Posted by SFA320

There was a recruiter in my recurrent ground school. There were a couple of guys asking him why I'm he did it for free. He laughed and said,"he would never do it for free, we are paid to recruit." According to him it changed almost three years ago.

Originally Posted by singlepilot

Not sure why this keeps coming up, I have flown with multiple recruiters and pilots who conduct interviews.
They have all said the same thing, you get 4 hours of pay per day.
Additionally I have been here over a year and have yet to fly with a single captain who taxis single engine.
This may not be everyone's experience, but this has been mine.
This group is pised and has a ton of contempt for the current management.