What's happening at Horizon and Jets?
05-02-2017, 10:45 AM
#1671
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I interviewed a few weeks ago, nothing different from what was posted a few weeks back. The new hire bonuses were approved that day, with $10k for Q400 and $5k for E175, and another $5k at the end of the first year. The initial would be paid after the successful completion of training, eliminating the walk in/out $10k people. Upgrade times weren't really mentioned, but I was told that I could get the Q400 and a line in SEA in about a month. We had eight people interview, varied backgrounds and experience levels. Some had ATPs, some were helicopter guys changing careers. I don't think everyone got an offer, a few left the room around 10:30 and we didn't see them again, but no way to know for sure. ATP-CTP is paid for by Horizon at various locations.
05-02-2017, 12:15 PM
#1672
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Originally Posted by oldgb
Upgrade times weren't really mentioned, but I was told that I could get the Q400 and a line in SEA in about a month.
Most junior FO that just got awarded SEA was hired 12/16.
So after 2 months of training and a bid of IOE you could probably get SEA after 2 bids. Subject to change of course as we take more jet deliveries.
Upgrade times are starting to go down, will probably be 2 years or less in a few months.
05-02-2017, 01:50 PM
#1673
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,482
Originally Posted by snackysmores
Most junior captain who got the june award was hired 1/15.
Most junior FO that just got awarded SEA was hired 12/16.
So after 2 months of training and a bid of IOE you could probably get SEA after 2 bids. Subject to change of course as we take more jet deliveries.
Upgrade times are starting to go down, will probably be 2 years or less in a few months.
Most junior FO that just got awarded SEA was hired 12/16.
So after 2 months of training and a bid of IOE you could probably get SEA after 2 bids. Subject to change of course as we take more jet deliveries.
Upgrade times are starting to go down, will probably be 2 years or less in a few months.
05-03-2017, 09:38 AM
#1675
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Originally Posted by PILOTO74
Well as long as they are 64 it will be Ok to listen to "Alternative facts" , now if they are 63 it would be a different story because I will have to put with it for a whole 2 years and that goes beyond my listening endurance for non-sense.
I find it rather comical that grown adults can't put on their big boy pants and deal with another person's opposing views without getting upset. Whatever captains you'll have to deal with here will be no worse than what you would deal with if you were working at United or Delta or whatever other place you WON'T be getting hired at due to your poor attitude. If you don't like what they're saying, just change the subject or ignore them, you are an adult!
At any rate, if you still can't deal with it feel free to go somewhere else and pass up the opportunity to fly with people that have been doing this for decades. Just remember that Horizon was the launch customer for the Q400 and we have captains here that have been flying it since the beginning who also already held several other type ratings. They know this airplane and this area inside and out, and I have learned plenty from them that you won't find in the books.
If you want a social club, go somewhere else. Just know that if you someday puke an engine on climb-out, at least here you'll probably be sitting next to someone who has had it happen before, and I don't mean in the sim.
Get over yourselves!!!
05-03-2017, 12:26 PM
#1676
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
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Originally Posted by WSPLT
I don't mean to pick on you specifically PILOTO74, but your comment just happens to be the latest one that I saw on the subject.
I find it rather comical that grown adults can't put on their big boy pants and deal with another person's opposing views without getting upset. Whatever captains you'll have to deal with here will be no worse than what you would deal with if you were working at United or Delta or whatever other place you WON'T be getting hired at due to your poor attitude. If you don't like what they're saying, just change the subject or ignore them, you are an adult!
At any rate, if you still can't deal with it feel free to go somewhere else and pass up the opportunity to fly with people that have been doing this for decades. Just remember that Horizon was the launch customer for the Q400 and we have captains here that have been flying it since the beginning who also already held several other type ratings. They know this airplane and this area inside and out, and I have learned plenty from them that you won't find in the books.
If you want a social club, go somewhere else. Just know that if you someday puke an engine on climb-out, at least here you'll probably be sitting next to someone who has had it happen before, and I don't mean in the sim.
Get over yourselves!!!
I find it rather comical that grown adults can't put on their big boy pants and deal with another person's opposing views without getting upset. Whatever captains you'll have to deal with here will be no worse than what you would deal with if you were working at United or Delta or whatever other place you WON'T be getting hired at due to your poor attitude. If you don't like what they're saying, just change the subject or ignore them, you are an adult!
At any rate, if you still can't deal with it feel free to go somewhere else and pass up the opportunity to fly with people that have been doing this for decades. Just remember that Horizon was the launch customer for the Q400 and we have captains here that have been flying it since the beginning who also already held several other type ratings. They know this airplane and this area inside and out, and I have learned plenty from them that you won't find in the books.
If you want a social club, go somewhere else. Just know that if you someday puke an engine on climb-out, at least here you'll probably be sitting next to someone who has had it happen before, and I don't mean in the sim.
Get over yourselves!!!
05-03-2017, 01:22 PM
#1677
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Originally Posted by WSPLT
I don't mean to pick on you specifically PILOTO74, but your comment just happens to be the latest one that I saw on the subject.
I find it rather comical that grown adults can't put on their big boy pants and deal with another person's opposing views without getting upset. Whatever captains you'll have to deal with here will be no worse than what you would deal with if you were working at United or Delta or whatever other place you WON'T be getting hired at due to your poor attitude. If you don't like what they're saying, just change the subject or ignore them, you are an adult!
At any rate, if you still can't deal with it feel free to go somewhere else and pass up the opportunity to fly with people that have been doing this for decades. Just remember that Horizon was the launch customer for the Q400 and we have captains here that have been flying it since the beginning who also already held several other type ratings. They know this airplane and this area inside and out, and I have learned plenty from them that you won't find in the books.
If you want a social club, go somewhere else. Just know that if you someday puke an engine on climb-out, at least here you'll probably be sitting next to someone who has had it happen before, and I don't mean in the sim.
Get over yourselves!!!
I find it rather comical that grown adults can't put on their big boy pants and deal with another person's opposing views without getting upset. Whatever captains you'll have to deal with here will be no worse than what you would deal with if you were working at United or Delta or whatever other place you WON'T be getting hired at due to your poor attitude. If you don't like what they're saying, just change the subject or ignore them, you are an adult!
At any rate, if you still can't deal with it feel free to go somewhere else and pass up the opportunity to fly with people that have been doing this for decades. Just remember that Horizon was the launch customer for the Q400 and we have captains here that have been flying it since the beginning who also already held several other type ratings. They know this airplane and this area inside and out, and I have learned plenty from them that you won't find in the books.
If you want a social club, go somewhere else. Just know that if you someday puke an engine on climb-out, at least here you'll probably be sitting next to someone who has had it happen before, and I don't mean in the sim.
Get over yourselves!!!
Thanks a lot Snackymores , if the pilot group is as nice and helpful as you are , maybe those six legs a day wont be that bad. Again thanks so much.
As you can see the above was my original comment and the comment that started the topic, I was just trying to be funny on my reply. Now in regard to the rest of your grievance I find appalling that you can judge people out of a single line
in a forum and call out my "poor attitude" really ??. I've flown (ride along should I say) with great pilots and some no so great but believe me I always wear my big boy pants and point out what I don't agreed with. Now if you can't deal with people views or comments without judging attitudes or sending me some other place as you just did well thats your problem. Glad that you are proud of you company but at no time expect everyone that agrees to everything you think or said. Best of Luck!!
05-03-2017, 02:21 PM
#1678
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Originally Posted by PILOTO74
Originally Posted by PILOTO74 View Post
Thanks a lot Snackymores , if the pilot group is as nice and helpful as you are , maybe those six legs a day wont be that bad. Again thanks so much.
As you can see the above was my original comment and the comment that started the topic, I was just trying to be funny on my reply. Now in regard to the rest of your grievance I find appalling that you can judge people out of a single line
in a forum and call out my "poor attitude" really ??. I've flown (ride along should I say) with great pilots and some no so great but believe me I always wear my big boy pants and point out what I don't agreed with. Now if you can't deal with people views or comments without judging attitudes or sending me some other place as you just did well thats your problem. Glad that you are proud of you company but at no time expect everyone that agrees to everything you think or said. Best of Luck!!
Thanks a lot Snackymores , if the pilot group is as nice and helpful as you are , maybe those six legs a day wont be that bad. Again thanks so much.
As you can see the above was my original comment and the comment that started the topic, I was just trying to be funny on my reply. Now in regard to the rest of your grievance I find appalling that you can judge people out of a single line
in a forum and call out my "poor attitude" really ??. I've flown (ride along should I say) with great pilots and some no so great but believe me I always wear my big boy pants and point out what I don't agreed with. Now if you can't deal with people views or comments without judging attitudes or sending me some other place as you just did well thats your problem. Glad that you are proud of you company but at no time expect everyone that agrees to everything you think or said. Best of Luck!!
I just find it rather comical that anyone would base their decision of a prospective employer upon the age or perceived political leanings of a company's pilot group. I'm not entirely sure what you meant with the last bit of your post, so I'll just leave that alone.
Again, I understand that I quoted you out of context and I apologize if my post came across as a personal attack on you. The specific bit that I quoted just seemed to sum up a number of comments that I have seen that I wished to address.
Last edited by WSPLT; 05-03-2017 at 02:35 PM.
05-04-2017, 12:21 PM
#1679
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First jet flight happened today:
"Mark down May 4, 2017, as one of the most important days in the history of Horizon Air.
With the on-time departure of flight 2790 at 8 a.m. this morning, Horizon re-launched revenue jet service, marking the culmination of more than 18 months of hard work across our entire company.
“As we celebrate this major milestone in Horizon’s history, I just want you to know that I am so proud of each and every one of you,” wrote Dave Campbell, president and CEO, in his Dave’s Check-in message earlier today.
The flight from Portland to St. Louis, operated on one of our brand-new Embraer E175 jets, departed at the exact scheduled time, carrying 70 passengers (including a full load of 12 in our first class cabin!). Captains *** and *** were at the controls of the jet, and flight attendants *** and *** were in the cabin, providing the exceptional service for which Horizon is known. (See gallery below for photos from the inaugural.)
***, who has been flying for Horizon since 1986, was thrilled to find out he’d be helming the inaugural flight.
“Captain *** and myself were asked to carry the mantle for all of the employees of Horizon on this historic day, and we were honored and humbled to do so,” *** says. “I am so very excited for this new chapter for Horizon. We have chosen an aircraft that we already know is reliable and a favorite with passengers, and provides us with the means to see an unprecedented level of growth such as we have never seen in our history! Without a doubt, these are the most exciting times and opportunities that I have witnessed in my 30 years at Horizon.”
Interestingly, the flight took place almost exactly six years after Horizon’s last scheduled jet service – a CRJ-700 flight from Seattle to Fresno on May 13, 2011. That final CRJ-700 flight marked the end of a fleet transition that began in April 2007, when we announced plans to phase out our 37-seat Q200 turboprops. (A year later, we announced the decision to similarly phase out our CRJ-700 jets in order to attain an all-Q400 fleet.)
Of course, there’s still plenty more work to be done. We have two other E175s in our possession that are getting prepped for revenue service. We’ll add two more jets to our fleet by mid-May, giving us five as we further expand our E175 service with more routes on May 18. We’re scheduled to have 13 E175s in our fleet by the end of the year, with 20 more on order for delivery in 2018 and 2019."
"Mark down May 4, 2017, as one of the most important days in the history of Horizon Air.
With the on-time departure of flight 2790 at 8 a.m. this morning, Horizon re-launched revenue jet service, marking the culmination of more than 18 months of hard work across our entire company.
“As we celebrate this major milestone in Horizon’s history, I just want you to know that I am so proud of each and every one of you,” wrote Dave Campbell, president and CEO, in his Dave’s Check-in message earlier today.
The flight from Portland to St. Louis, operated on one of our brand-new Embraer E175 jets, departed at the exact scheduled time, carrying 70 passengers (including a full load of 12 in our first class cabin!). Captains *** and *** were at the controls of the jet, and flight attendants *** and *** were in the cabin, providing the exceptional service for which Horizon is known. (See gallery below for photos from the inaugural.)
***, who has been flying for Horizon since 1986, was thrilled to find out he’d be helming the inaugural flight.
“Captain *** and myself were asked to carry the mantle for all of the employees of Horizon on this historic day, and we were honored and humbled to do so,” *** says. “I am so very excited for this new chapter for Horizon. We have chosen an aircraft that we already know is reliable and a favorite with passengers, and provides us with the means to see an unprecedented level of growth such as we have never seen in our history! Without a doubt, these are the most exciting times and opportunities that I have witnessed in my 30 years at Horizon.”
Interestingly, the flight took place almost exactly six years after Horizon’s last scheduled jet service – a CRJ-700 flight from Seattle to Fresno on May 13, 2011. That final CRJ-700 flight marked the end of a fleet transition that began in April 2007, when we announced plans to phase out our 37-seat Q200 turboprops. (A year later, we announced the decision to similarly phase out our CRJ-700 jets in order to attain an all-Q400 fleet.)
Of course, there’s still plenty more work to be done. We have two other E175s in our possession that are getting prepped for revenue service. We’ll add two more jets to our fleet by mid-May, giving us five as we further expand our E175 service with more routes on May 18. We’re scheduled to have 13 E175s in our fleet by the end of the year, with 20 more on order for delivery in 2018 and 2019."
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